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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 60572" data-attributes="member: 2067">This is not meant as an attack or a &quot;your position is obviously inferior&quot; flamable thread...I seriously want to know...what's the draw of a class-less system?Customizability? &quot;Realism&quot;? What is it?What is so great about a class-less system, and why can't a class-based system give that?I have so far failed to see anything great about a class-less system. I have done a bit of GURPS, but the system seemed rather confusing and counter-intuitive (Never did understand why a powerful magician would have to be able to lift cars with a high STR needed to be able to cast lotsa spells). It failed to impress me, though a lack of classes wasn't what distanced me most.What's wrong with the Archetypes, especially when they're as flexible as 3e D&amp;D classes? So I want to be persuaded to give a class-less system a fighting chance. So describe some to me, and why they are &quot;better&quot;, or at least equal to, the D&amp;D class-based system. Please? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 60572, member: 2067"] This is not meant as an attack or a "your position is obviously inferior" flamable thread...I seriously want to know...what's the draw of a class-less system? Customizability? "Realism"? What is it? What is so great about a class-less system, and why can't a class-based system give that? I have so far failed to see anything great about a class-less system. I have done a bit of GURPS, but the system seemed rather confusing and counter-intuitive (Never did understand why a powerful magician would have to be able to lift cars with a high STR needed to be able to cast lotsa spells). It failed to impress me, though a lack of classes wasn't what distanced me most. What's wrong with the Archetypes, especially when they're as flexible as 3e D&D classes? So I want to be persuaded to give a class-less system a fighting chance. So describe some to me, and why they are "better", or at least equal to, the D&D class-based system. Please? :) [/QUOTE]

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