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<blockquote data-quote="Axiomatic Unicorn" data-source="post: 63518" data-attributes="member: 1974">As a former heavy GURPS player I always chuckle when people claim it is so abuse sensitive.&nbsp; A decent group will make any game good and a lame group can screw up any game just as much.I know people will say that this is a cliche defense, but that does not make it any less true.I played GURPS because I thought it was a much better game than 2e.&nbsp; I think 3E is also a much better game than 2e as well.&nbsp; I probably prefer 3E over GURPS, but I like both.&nbsp; The major deciding factor is what the people I game with prefer.I never once felt I had to hold my players hands.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, I have more trouble with max/min-ing with my current 3E game than I ever did with GURPS.&nbsp; But that is becuase of the players, not the system.On the main topic, I honestly never saw the class vs classless aspect as being significant.&nbsp; I think they are both valid.&nbsp; The 3E multiclassing and Pclass system make it quasi-classless, at least compared to the old &quot;I'm a fighter&quot; 2e system.&nbsp; You could probably develop a system for GURPS where every 10 to 20 points must be spent within a select block of skills and advantages to create a quais-classed system.But 3E has done the best job I have seen of finding the best of both worlds.&nbsp; I like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Axiomatic Unicorn, post: 63518, member: 1974"] As a former heavy GURPS player I always chuckle when people claim it is so abuse sensitive. A decent group will make any game good and a lame group can screw up any game just as much. I know people will say that this is a cliche defense, but that does not make it any less true. I played GURPS because I thought it was a much better game than 2e. I think 3E is also a much better game than 2e as well. I probably prefer 3E over GURPS, but I like both. The major deciding factor is what the people I game with prefer. I never once felt I had to hold my players hands. As a matter of fact, I have more trouble with max/min-ing with my current 3E game than I ever did with GURPS. But that is becuase of the players, not the system. On the main topic, I honestly never saw the class vs classless aspect as being significant. I think they are both valid. The 3E multiclassing and Pclass system make it quasi-classless, at least compared to the old "I'm a fighter" 2e system. You could probably develop a system for GURPS where every 10 to 20 points must be spent within a select block of skills and advantages to create a quais-classed system. But 3E has done the best job I have seen of finding the best of both worlds. I like that. [/QUOTE]

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