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<blockquote data-quote="AFGNCAAP" data-source="post: 68648" data-attributes="member: 871">In relation to the discussion of classless systems, I have a question regarding GURPS character creation:Is there ANY sort of built-in mechanic which prevents certain degrees of &quot;system abuse&quot;?&nbsp; For example, is there any thing such as a kind of prerequisite for certain advantages or disadvantages: for example, characters who take the Pacifist disadvatage CANNOT have any combat skills (or can only have a few select defensive combat skills)---the disadvantage has to be bought off before the character can gain such skills.&nbsp; Essentially, some sort of mechanic to prevent any sort of contradictory character choices.I think the thing which bothers me about GURPS, as well as some other primarily skill-based systems, is the Advantage/Disadvantage system.&nbsp; I think it's the degree to which these systems can go---essentially gaining points for very minor attributes which can be entirely performed in gameplay.&nbsp; It sort of comes off as roll-playing for role-playing, if you will.&nbsp; Someone who bites their nails, has a mild case of hay fever, a bit of a lisp, a foot fetish, &amp; perhaps bad social graces, IMHO, shouldn't be a better marksman because he/she has these personality quirks.&nbsp; These things can merely be roleplayed &amp; be rewarding in-game instead of being used as reasons to get a few extra points for character development.I don't have a problem with, for example, the Hindrances system in Marvel SAGA---pretty much all of those disadvantages are quite significant, &amp; there's no guarantee that the character will gain any benefit from taking 1 or 2 Hindrances, either.Oh well.&nbsp; Just thought I'd ask.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AFGNCAAP, post: 68648, member: 871"] In relation to the discussion of classless systems, I have a question regarding GURPS character creation: Is there ANY sort of built-in mechanic which prevents certain degrees of "system abuse"? For example, is there any thing such as a kind of prerequisite for certain advantages or disadvantages: for example, characters who take the Pacifist disadvatage CANNOT have any combat skills (or can only have a few select defensive combat skills)---the disadvantage has to be bought off before the character can gain such skills. Essentially, some sort of mechanic to prevent any sort of contradictory character choices. I think the thing which bothers me about GURPS, as well as some other primarily skill-based systems, is the Advantage/Disadvantage system. I think it's the degree to which these systems can go---essentially gaining points for very minor attributes which can be entirely performed in gameplay. It sort of comes off as roll-playing for role-playing, if you will. Someone who bites their nails, has a mild case of hay fever, a bit of a lisp, a foot fetish, & perhaps bad social graces, IMHO, shouldn't be a better marksman because he/she has these personality quirks. These things can merely be roleplayed & be rewarding in-game instead of being used as reasons to get a few extra points for character development. I don't have a problem with, for example, the Hindrances system in Marvel SAGA---pretty much all of those disadvantages are quite significant, & there's no guarantee that the character will gain any benefit from taking 1 or 2 Hindrances, either. Oh well. Just thought I'd ask. [/QUOTE]

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