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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasper" data-source="post: 1383206" data-attributes="member: 277">If you want a non-militant priest, there's one in Unearthed Arcana… better yet role play one.The 'balance' reason is that 'people don't want to play the healer role'.,… balance smallance. I been playing the cleric since 79 or 80 first as the party medic then I started enjoying the class. We all didn’t need balance in AD&DThex class should be bumped up somehow. Not because it isn't balanced with the other core classes, it really is, but because it is the class that people avoid playing because of the walking x role they fill..  Where x is group containing the know parts ( thief, paladin, cleric, druid, wizard, illusionist, bard, ranger, assassin, monk) IN other words depending on the group, dm, flavor, people will avoid certain classes. I known people who get upset when someone brings a second thief to the table. Various rules and flavor complains. Lordao ,tuzenbach, other. Gee anytime you microscope the rules to any game it makes no logical sense. After all why does a queen get to move is all those directions in chess where in history the queens didn’t battle much etc. Wait a minute historically the older versions of chess had totally different moves than today. LordAo very good microscoping of flavor text, rules text, text text. However go down this road leads to first edition monks taking NO damage if they make a saving throw. A Eric grandmother no prize to the person who post the page number and text to support the no damage monk.Bishop ODO. A pope or two in armour. Which priest of the temple gave us the saying ‘kill them all let God sort them out’ ?So, I humbly invite everyone (including me) to get off the soapboxes, and just enjoy the game. Try it, you might like it…Jasper knocks Trainz off his soapbox. Pops a fizz in his mouth so he can foam. But bitching about the game is so much fun.</blockquote>

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