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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6357166" data-attributes="member: 42582">Thanks.One thing I've noticed over the course of my 4e campaign is that relaxing the concerns I once would have had about overpowered items like that has really helped the game, in terms of helping to set up and then contribute to the resolution of dramatic encounters.I think some of this is due to the system, with its tight design parameters and its own version of &quot;bounded accuracy&quot;. I think some is also to changes in the way both I and my players approach the game - I feel we're all a lot more laid back than we probably once were, with less searching for every little last exploit and more interest in working within the rules to see what is possible: still pushing hard, but pushing in the same direction as the system rather than looking for ways to break out of it.I think it's also about a slightly more realistic sense of what the game is about, and what makes it fun. For instance, the GM will always be trying to put the PCs into danger/difficulty, so I think there's a sense on the players' side that, from their side, play is more about contributing both to the content of that danger/difficulty (by being clear about what they want out of the game for themselves and their PCs), and then dealing with the danger/difficulty when it presents itself, rather than turtling up to keep their PCs safe from all harm. (In a turtling game, the Tower wouldn't play very well at all, as it is the ultimate turtle's item.)I have a similar sort of feeling about the DungeonWorld PbP I'm currently playing in with [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION] and [MENTION=16586]Campbell[/MENTION], and I'm hoping to be able to carry the same approach into future campaigns, whatever system I end up using.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6357166, member: 42582"] Thanks. One thing I've noticed over the course of my 4e campaign is that relaxing the concerns I once would have had about overpowered items like that has really helped the game, in terms of helping to set up and then contribute to the resolution of dramatic encounters. I think some of this is due to the system, with its tight design parameters and its own version of "bounded accuracy". I think some is also to changes in the way both I and my players approach the game - I feel we're all a lot more laid back than we probably once were, with less searching for every little last exploit and more interest in working within the rules to see what is possible: still pushing hard, but pushing in the same direction as the system rather than looking for ways to break out of it. I think it's also about a slightly more realistic sense of what the game is about, and what makes it fun. For instance, the GM will always be trying to put the PCs into danger/difficulty, so I think there's a sense on the players' side that, from their side, play is more about contributing both to the content of that danger/difficulty (by being clear about what they want out of the game for themselves and their PCs), and then dealing with the danger/difficulty when it presents itself, rather than turtling up to keep their PCs safe from all harm. (In a turtling game, the Tower wouldn't play very well at all, as it is the ultimate turtle's item.) I have a similar sort of feeling about the DungeonWorld PbP I'm currently playing in with [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION] and [MENTION=16586]Campbell[/MENTION], and I'm hoping to be able to carry the same approach into future campaigns, whatever system I end up using. [/QUOTE]

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