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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 7315436" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>Well</p><p></p><p>The combo of wish (to get the bard) and forcecage (a rather broken spell) was a killer...</p><p></p><p>Some thoughts:</p><p></p><p>1: don't beat yourself up. EVERY DM has had a big bad boss defeated soundly by the PCs. It just happens</p><p></p><p>2: Did the PCs design the bard or did you? Kind of convenient for them that he could counterspell and had forcecage...</p><p></p><p>3: The lead up to the fight was *awesome*. Great stuff</p><p></p><p>4: I think the cure wound wouldn't have helped the bard simulacrum but I may be wrong. (these are the oversights GMs do all the time...) </p><p></p><p>5: I agree that the forcecage would have been too small to capture a dragon that side, but I can't blame you for ruling the way you did.</p><p></p><p>6: The one ruling that does perplex me is people attacking the dragon (and vice versa) through the cage... how did that work?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I've never used B/X so I can't really comment on that, but I do understand the desire for a less... fiddly system (although I think 5e isn't too bad). About that:</p><p></p><p>A: A lot of the complexity comes from the multiple spells available. If you want a lower magic system, I strongly recommend warhammer frpg 2nd edition</p><p></p><p>B: Stay away from 3.X edition and Pathfinder! :O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 7315436, member: 23"] Well The combo of wish (to get the bard) and forcecage (a rather broken spell) was a killer... Some thoughts: 1: don't beat yourself up. EVERY DM has had a big bad boss defeated soundly by the PCs. It just happens 2: Did the PCs design the bard or did you? Kind of convenient for them that he could counterspell and had forcecage... 3: The lead up to the fight was *awesome*. Great stuff 4: I think the cure wound wouldn't have helped the bard simulacrum but I may be wrong. (these are the oversights GMs do all the time...) 5: I agree that the forcecage would have been too small to capture a dragon that side, but I can't blame you for ruling the way you did. 6: The one ruling that does perplex me is people attacking the dragon (and vice versa) through the cage... how did that work? I've never used B/X so I can't really comment on that, but I do understand the desire for a less... fiddly system (although I think 5e isn't too bad). About that: A: A lot of the complexity comes from the multiple spells available. If you want a lower magic system, I strongly recommend warhammer frpg 2nd edition B: Stay away from 3.X edition and Pathfinder! :O [/QUOTE]
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