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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7316370" data-attributes="member: 6801845">LOL.&nbsp; I remember a 3.5 LG game where we were facing multiple high level demons. I thought it was going to be a tough fight.&nbsp; Then the cleric's turn comes around and she does some fancy footwork to raise the level of her &quot;You die!&quot; spell* and it was game over.&nbsp; All enemies destroyed after using an ability and a single spell.&nbsp; Or another one where we're facing high level bad guys and the wizard walks up does bibldey-boo-never-skitter-quickened-etc casts half a dozen spells on his turn and no more bad guys.Every edition has the same issue at higher levels.&nbsp; In 3.5 there were many spells and effects that basically stated &quot;if you are not this level you are dead&quot;.&nbsp; In 4E the controllers could nerf everything out there unless the DM/mod writers did something to nerf all of their toys.&nbsp; As I, and others, have pointed out there were many ways this encounter could have been run to make it more challenging.So once again, come back if you ever have any constructive advice instead of the tired old dead horse you continue to beat with every thread posting I read of how 5E is broken beyond all recognition.*OK that wasn't the name of the spell (Holy Word maybe?) but it was the effect.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7316370, member: 6801845"] LOL. I remember a 3.5 LG game where we were facing multiple high level demons. I thought it was going to be a tough fight. Then the cleric's turn comes around and she does some fancy footwork to raise the level of her "You die!" spell* and it was game over. All enemies destroyed after using an ability and a single spell. Or another one where we're facing high level bad guys and the wizard walks up does bibldey-boo-never-skitter-quickened-etc casts half a dozen spells on his turn and no more bad guys. Every edition has the same issue at higher levels. In 3.5 there were many spells and effects that basically stated "if you are not this level you are dead". In 4E the controllers could nerf everything out there unless the DM/mod writers did something to nerf all of their toys. As I, and others, have pointed out there were many ways this encounter could have been run to make it more challenging. So once again, come back if you ever have any constructive advice instead of the tired old dead horse you continue to beat with every thread posting I read of how 5E is broken beyond all recognition. [I]*OK that wasn't the name of the spell (Holy Word maybe?) but it was the effect.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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