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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3764866" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>My advice is the mirror of your own.</p><p></p><p>Are you suggesting that it is not bad playing to ask the DM to run a game that she is not enjoying as much as she could, even if she is willing to do so?</p><p></p><p>Then how can it be bad DMing to run a game that the players are not ejoying as much as they could, even if they are willing to do so?</p><p></p><p>How can one be "kinda a jack-ass move, assuming that you game with people that you call friends" and the other not be?</p><p></p><p>Moreover, I think it's not only important for any DM to recognize that most likely his group is not made up of people who are identical to him in terms of what they want out of the game, but that the players are also not identical to each other in terms of what they want out of the game. Every game is a compromise, to some degree, among all of the participants.</p><p></p><p>And, as a result of that compromise, to some degree, every DM is running a game that each individual player is not enjoying as much as she could if the game was tailored to her specifically, although she is willing to do so.</p><p></p><p>The DM has a greater responsibility to prep the game than any other player, and no one is going to do that if they are not enjoying it. At least, not for long. If the DM doesn't enjoy the game, no one does. This is in addition to play at the table, and it is critical that the DM enjoys it as much as possible.</p><p></p><p>In addition, the DM is a player, and has as much right to expect to enjoy the game as any other player while at the table.</p><p></p><p>Why one would expect the DM to say "these guys are great guys, and I enjoy playing with them enough that I'll put up with games that I'd rather not play at times, or playstyle differences, or what-have-you because those aren't as important to me as the friendship" but not expect the players to say "these guys are great guys, and I enjoy playing with them enough that I'll put up with games that I'd rather not play at times, or playstyle differences, or what-have-you because those aren't as important to me as the friendship" boggles the mind.</p><p></p><p>YMMV, and obviously does.</p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3764866, member: 18280"] My advice is the mirror of your own. Are you suggesting that it is not bad playing to ask the DM to run a game that she is not enjoying as much as she could, even if she is willing to do so? Then how can it be bad DMing to run a game that the players are not ejoying as much as they could, even if they are willing to do so? How can one be "kinda a jack-ass move, assuming that you game with people that you call friends" and the other not be? Moreover, I think it's not only important for any DM to recognize that most likely his group is not made up of people who are identical to him in terms of what they want out of the game, but that the players are also not identical to each other in terms of what they want out of the game. Every game is a compromise, to some degree, among all of the participants. And, as a result of that compromise, to some degree, every DM is running a game that each individual player is not enjoying as much as she could if the game was tailored to her specifically, although she is willing to do so. The DM has a greater responsibility to prep the game than any other player, and no one is going to do that if they are not enjoying it. At least, not for long. If the DM doesn't enjoy the game, no one does. This is in addition to play at the table, and it is critical that the DM enjoys it as much as possible. In addition, the DM is a player, and has as much right to expect to enjoy the game as any other player while at the table. Why one would expect the DM to say "these guys are great guys, and I enjoy playing with them enough that I'll put up with games that I'd rather not play at times, or playstyle differences, or what-have-you because those aren't as important to me as the friendship" but not expect the players to say "these guys are great guys, and I enjoy playing with them enough that I'll put up with games that I'd rather not play at times, or playstyle differences, or what-have-you because those aren't as important to me as the friendship" boggles the mind. YMMV, and obviously does. RC [/QUOTE]
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