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<blockquote data-quote="Mardoc Redcloak" data-source="post: 3763360" data-attributes="member: 40569"><p>I don't tie sexual behavior to alignment by either of those standards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would broaden this somewhat. Behavior can be in a sense "forced upon an unwilling recipient" without it being "outright violent", and in accordance with this principle at least in some cases where "consent" can be claimed (prostitution being one prominent case) there remain serious moral problems.</p><p></p><p>But, yes, that is the essence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The second part does not follow from the first, even if we accept your cultural analysis without question (and there is room for dissent there as well.) An action can be morally good or neutral even if society disapproves of it, and an action can be morally evil even if society encourages it. Even if one doubts this principle in the real world, at least as far as the "cosmological" notions of good and evil existing in D&D, it holds--a solar need not check the specific cultural predilections of an area before recognizing what is good and what is evil.</p><p></p><p>It is perfectly possible, therefore, to portray a society that has a strong opposition to (say) homosexuality while still having same-sex relations not count as immoral.</p><p></p><p>Of course, especially in the religious context such a contradiction might be more difficult to maintain in a fantasy world, since direct communication with good-aligned outsiders and the various "detect" spells make objective moral standards somewhat more accessible than they are in the real world... but in that case we would have good reason to be anachronistic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mardoc Redcloak, post: 3763360, member: 40569"] I don't tie sexual behavior to alignment by either of those standards. I would broaden this somewhat. Behavior can be in a sense "forced upon an unwilling recipient" without it being "outright violent", and in accordance with this principle at least in some cases where "consent" can be claimed (prostitution being one prominent case) there remain serious moral problems. But, yes, that is the essence. The second part does not follow from the first, even if we accept your cultural analysis without question (and there is room for dissent there as well.) An action can be morally good or neutral even if society disapproves of it, and an action can be morally evil even if society encourages it. Even if one doubts this principle in the real world, at least as far as the "cosmological" notions of good and evil existing in D&D, it holds--a solar need not check the specific cultural predilections of an area before recognizing what is good and what is evil. It is perfectly possible, therefore, to portray a society that has a strong opposition to (say) homosexuality while still having same-sex relations not count as immoral. Of course, especially in the religious context such a contradiction might be more difficult to maintain in a fantasy world, since direct communication with good-aligned outsiders and the various "detect" spells make objective moral standards somewhat more accessible than they are in the real world... but in that case we would have good reason to be anachronistic. [/QUOTE]
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