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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pagan priest" data-source="post: 3776479" data-attributes="member: 7650">This is where I start to disagree with you.  For an ephermial being, imitating the eternal is a path to unhappiness.  Or rather, to blindly imitate the eternal is a path to unhappiness.  "Excellence" can only be defined by looking at what something is, and what it can become.  To be eternal is to be static, to be static is to never grow, an ephermial that never grows remains a baby.But for humans, and preseumably other humanoids as well, most acts of sex are NOT about procreation, but are about pleasure.  It is hard-wired into the system, thus you are going against that which lies at the very core of human-ness.  Instead, the pleasure is about creating a bond, and in the context of that bond, new life can be nurtured to maturity.Having a few naval-gazers may be okay for a society, but if you are claiming that it is the highest good, then you are claiming that everyone should be doing that, and society immediately goes into the toilet, because there is o one left to cook supper, or dig a new outhouse.  Running away from reality is never a good thing."Good", as per the PHB, relates to altruism,  respect for life and a concern for the dignity of others.  Chastity is not inherantly any of these.Promiscuity at least shares pleasure, and thus fits into good as an altuistic act.Fecund promiscuity erodes family life or confuses children only to the extent that there is an expectation of chastity.  In other words, back to the law/chaos point again.  If a child is raised in a society that considers it to be the norm for women to get pregnant by an unknown man while celebrating the coming of Spring, there will be NO confusion... that is what is normal.You end with the assumption that a marital dyad is harmed by non-fidelity.  What of the marital triad?  What of a marital dyad that accepts that one or both partners will occassionaly seek outside pleasures, but the dyad is a constant amongst these ephermial pleasures?  It is certainly possible to define a marital dyad that allows for a unique and central gift of one spouse to another, while still having room for outside sexual relationships that never touch on this.</blockquote>

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