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Sexism in Table-Top Gaming: My Thoughts On It, and What We Can Do About It
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<blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6203281" data-attributes="member: 40233"><p>OK. That's not the sense I get from your piece. I get no sense that you have aesthetic objections to depictions of rape in media, only moral ones. Perhaps you should consider taking that part out and not calling it "sexist" then, since that term is a profoundly moral attack and amounts, in modern parlance, to a call for the offender to be silenced, if not outright charged with criminality.</p><p></p><p>If your objection is to bad art, then we don't disagree. But perception of bad art is subjective, and even bad art sometimes finds an audience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And since they are doing so in an imaginary medium, who cares? Granted, it's not for everyone. You're pretty clear that you don't like it. It's not my thing either. But if it finds an audience who <em>does</em> like it, and can pay enough money to support it, they aren't hurting anyone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They absolutely can. I just lit a fire under WOTC for their recent goblin & kobolds article. And if you can show enough consumers who would buy their product, if only the got rid of the material you find objectionable, then you might get them to remove the material. All you have to show is there ismore money to be made without that material than they make currently selling to customers who desire that material.</p><p></p><p>It sounds, and maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds, like you're saying "the people who want that material are bad people, so they shouldn't get what they want, and you should make your product the way I say, even though you will lose money and customers, because I represent the good people."</p><p></p><p>That sounds like entitlement to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salamandyr, post: 6203281, member: 40233"] OK. That's not the sense I get from your piece. I get no sense that you have aesthetic objections to depictions of rape in media, only moral ones. Perhaps you should consider taking that part out and not calling it "sexist" then, since that term is a profoundly moral attack and amounts, in modern parlance, to a call for the offender to be silenced, if not outright charged with criminality. If your objection is to bad art, then we don't disagree. But perception of bad art is subjective, and even bad art sometimes finds an audience. And since they are doing so in an imaginary medium, who cares? Granted, it's not for everyone. You're pretty clear that you don't like it. It's not my thing either. But if it finds an audience who [I]does[/I] like it, and can pay enough money to support it, they aren't hurting anyone. They absolutely can. I just lit a fire under WOTC for their recent goblin & kobolds article. And if you can show enough consumers who would buy their product, if only the got rid of the material you find objectionable, then you might get them to remove the material. All you have to show is there ismore money to be made without that material than they make currently selling to customers who desire that material. It sounds, and maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds, like you're saying "the people who want that material are bad people, so they shouldn't get what they want, and you should make your product the way I say, even though you will lose money and customers, because I represent the good people." That sounds like entitlement to me. [/QUOTE]
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