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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 6203286" data-attributes="member: 1">You phrase that as a statement and conclusion, but that last bit - &quot;they aren't hurting anyone&quot; - is the debate, isn't it?&nbsp; That's the question, not the conclusion. That's what it's all about.&nbsp; I don't feel there's much interesting conversational mileage in &quot;yes they are&quot;, &quot;no they aren't&quot;; so this debate should be about why they are or why they aren't hurting anybody by producing such material.I say that not having seen the material, of course.Yes. &quot;Entitlement&quot; is perfectly appropriate when it's refering to things everyone should be entitled to.&nbsp; A basic level of respect is one of those things.Are there exceptions to your strong stance on this?&nbsp; Because I can think of at least one very obvious one.&nbsp; And if agree there's one, then we agree there's potentially more than one; it's just a question of where we choose to put that &quot;harm&quot; line.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 6203286, member: 1"] You phrase that as a statement and conclusion, but that last bit - "they aren't hurting anyone" -[I] is[/I] the debate, isn't it? That's the question, not the conclusion. That's what it's all about. I don't feel there's much interesting conversational mileage in "yes they are", "no they aren't"; so this debate should be about [I]why[/I] they are or [I]why[/I] they aren't hurting anybody by producing such material. I say that not having seen the material, of course. Yes. "Entitlement" is perfectly appropriate when it's refering to things everyone should be entitled to. A basic level of respect is one of those things. Are there exceptions to your strong stance on this? Because I can think of at least one very obvious one. And if agree there's one, then we agree there's potentially more than one; it's just a question of where we choose to put that "harm" line. [/QUOTE]

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