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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6203340" data-attributes="member: 40233">The statement you're quoting here was me clearly explaining where I'm coming from.  I can't stand that pseudo Socratic dialog tactic where one hides ones core principles while attacking someone else's. The sentence you quoted and responded to was a prefatory statement.  Well, I guess I should have spent a little more time getting from why I jump from one point to the other.  My apologies.  This original post was originally longer, but I cut a fair bit because it went into a discussion of Libertad that might have explained this paragraph better but might also have been construed as a personal attack.   But the gist of it was very close to what Umbran wrote in the post after mine.This is an unfair characterization of my point, and for that matter, Libertad's point.  Libertad isn't just asking for women to be treated with respect; she's demanding special privileges on the basis of her sex.  She is basically demanding that a category of negative actions that she finds particularly objectionable, should be off limits for inclusion in material, even material clearly marketed as horror, because it makes her uncomfortable.  Her demand has nothing to do with respect for women, because there are women who currently enjoy the products she's criticizing.   So because she doesn't like something, other women have to suffer.I've kept my criticism limited to this point.  She is complaining that there exists products on the market that she doesn't like, and there are people enjoying them in ways she doesn't approve of.This is where the freedom thing comes in...especially freedom of thought.</blockquote>

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