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<blockquote data-quote="mythago" data-source="post: 6204217" data-attributes="member: 3019"><p>Kursk, I appreciate that your heart and your actions are in the right place, but I would urge you to consider that poor treatment of women in gaming culture may exist even if you personally haven't experienced it, and that if you're a man (as your post suggests) that you are less likely to have been on the receiving end. </p><p></p><p>I mean, two women have posted in <em>this thread</em> about how it was, in fact a lot worse "back in the day" and how sexism in gaming still exists. The mods have to keep a tight rein on this thread precisely because of how often the topic gets very heated. That really wouldn't be the case if the scope of the problem was limited to the occasional angry 15-year-old who couldn't handle being turned down for a date by the paladin's player. It would be an odd thing indeed if gaming were the sole hobby unusually more progressive than the culture around it. (Fercryinoutloud, even the Great Gygax opined that gaming is uninteresting to women because of their ladybrains.) We can't fix a problem we don't acknowledge, and it's precisely because many people talked and thought and tried to improve gaming culture that things <em>are</em> much much better than they were "back in the day".</p><p></p><p>As a side note, WRT the woman who got annoyed at you, even though you meant it as simple courtesy, she may have felt as though your standing or opening doors was the equivalent of repeatedly announcing "WHOA DUDES LOOK THERE IS A GIRL IN THE ROOM" - which, if one has already had the experience of being treated like a creature from Mars by your co-hobbyists, may be something to which one is a bit sensitive. I'm also sorry to say that there are men who, unlike you, treat social courtesies such as yours not as appropriate gentlemanly behavior but as a political litmus test or a way to pull the girls' pigtails.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mythago, post: 6204217, member: 3019"] Kursk, I appreciate that your heart and your actions are in the right place, but I would urge you to consider that poor treatment of women in gaming culture may exist even if you personally haven't experienced it, and that if you're a man (as your post suggests) that you are less likely to have been on the receiving end. I mean, two women have posted in [I]this thread[/I] about how it was, in fact a lot worse "back in the day" and how sexism in gaming still exists. The mods have to keep a tight rein on this thread precisely because of how often the topic gets very heated. That really wouldn't be the case if the scope of the problem was limited to the occasional angry 15-year-old who couldn't handle being turned down for a date by the paladin's player. It would be an odd thing indeed if gaming were the sole hobby unusually more progressive than the culture around it. (Fercryinoutloud, even the Great Gygax opined that gaming is uninteresting to women because of their ladybrains.) We can't fix a problem we don't acknowledge, and it's precisely because many people talked and thought and tried to improve gaming culture that things [I]are[/I] much much better than they were "back in the day". As a side note, WRT the woman who got annoyed at you, even though you meant it as simple courtesy, she may have felt as though your standing or opening doors was the equivalent of repeatedly announcing "WHOA DUDES LOOK THERE IS A GIRL IN THE ROOM" - which, if one has already had the experience of being treated like a creature from Mars by your co-hobbyists, may be something to which one is a bit sensitive. I'm also sorry to say that there are men who, unlike you, treat social courtesies such as yours not as appropriate gentlemanly behavior but as a political litmus test or a way to pull the girls' pigtails. [/QUOTE]
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