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Sexism in Table-Top Gaming: My Thoughts On It, and What We Can Do About It
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6205627" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Do I seem like someone who is afraid to rock the boat?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm a bit skeptical of bringing the agenda of receiving justice to my gaming table. Among many reasons this sounds likely to go wrong is one should really really be careful before appealing to Justice - you are never quite certain where it going to fall.</p><p></p><p>So far we've been going with the assumption that Bob is being a jerk and Sue is innocent. But that isn't always the case. Bob may really be jealous with cause; Sue might be getting preferential treatment. Sue might be innocent in that too (which means the problem that needs correcting might lie with neither Bob nor Sue), but then again she might not be. For all we know, the fact that Sue gets preferential treatment and attention when she games might be one of her main reasons for liking gaming. I've certainly known men that fit that standard. So far we've assumed that Sue fits no sexist sterotypes, but that might not be true. Out in the real world before we accepted that Bob is a jerk a priori, these table conflicts can look a lot more murky. Once we get beyond, "Bob is making me feel uncomfortable, can you speak to him.", to "Bob is in the wrong, I demand justice!", things get really murky.</p><p></p><p>Asking the DM to pull a Karate Kid style finishing move on Bob is also a tragedy. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm not saying there aren't times it shouldn't happen. But... sometimes we ought to be careful about crying out for everyone to get what they deserve. Making Bob the target of correction would give me no satisfaction, and not every group would survive that even if they generally agreed he deserved it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6205627, member: 4937"] Do I seem like someone who is afraid to rock the boat? I'm a bit skeptical of bringing the agenda of receiving justice to my gaming table. Among many reasons this sounds likely to go wrong is one should really really be careful before appealing to Justice - you are never quite certain where it going to fall. So far we've been going with the assumption that Bob is being a jerk and Sue is innocent. But that isn't always the case. Bob may really be jealous with cause; Sue might be getting preferential treatment. Sue might be innocent in that too (which means the problem that needs correcting might lie with neither Bob nor Sue), but then again she might not be. For all we know, the fact that Sue gets preferential treatment and attention when she games might be one of her main reasons for liking gaming. I've certainly known men that fit that standard. So far we've assumed that Sue fits no sexist sterotypes, but that might not be true. Out in the real world before we accepted that Bob is a jerk a priori, these table conflicts can look a lot more murky. Once we get beyond, "Bob is making me feel uncomfortable, can you speak to him.", to "Bob is in the wrong, I demand justice!", things get really murky. Asking the DM to pull a Karate Kid style finishing move on Bob is also a tragedy. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm not saying there aren't times it shouldn't happen. But... sometimes we ought to be careful about crying out for everyone to get what they deserve. Making Bob the target of correction would give me no satisfaction, and not every group would survive that even if they generally agreed he deserved it. [/QUOTE]
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