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<blockquote data-quote="Le Noir Faineant" data-source="post: 6206271" data-attributes="member: 30898"><p>Oh lordy... Keep talking, governor, I mean, mythago. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On the off chance that you're here to exchange ideas, and not just to post them... Would there be a difference for you if the DM who brought the party to the whorehouse was female?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And rightfully so. But are we talking about "Chicks Be Trippin'" (which I shall copyright tonight), or are we talking about <em>occasional </em>sexism in games? Deliberate, or accidental sexism? Or, rape in games? Or, rules that discriminate against female characters in games? - Again, on the off chance that you're simply not getting what I mean, instead of being deliberately confrontational, those are many different things, not one.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again, and with the best intentions, I tell you, you're comparing apples and oranges. You seem to think of one specific kind of roleplaying; that is too narrow a point of view. For example, should I really go to my Dark Heresy group and tell them that, according to you, we are likely to support ethnic cleansings, as this is what our characters do? - Now, troll players, as you describe, again, are a completely different thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of this is really just bickering about semantics. Does your group enjoy playing together? Because, as long as nobody complains, <em>chances are</em> people actually enjoy playing together. The more subtle examples of perceived sexism are all debatable, and they are not game-related.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, well, yes it is. Because your conduct with strangers is different than with people you know and share a certain level of trust with. Hopefully.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>YES YES, because "sexism", that's really something when the average person doesn't think of men patting women's buttocks, but of Demi Moore talking Michael Douglas into submissively boinking her on an office chair. Totally gender-neutered statement! I get ya!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hating, I don't know. Discriminating against, for sure! Or was it a woman who was accused of her casual sexist remarks giving a PTSD patient a mental breakdown? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Le Noir Faineant, post: 6206271, member: 30898"] Oh lordy... Keep talking, governor, I mean, mythago. On the off chance that you're here to exchange ideas, and not just to post them... Would there be a difference for you if the DM who brought the party to the whorehouse was female? And rightfully so. But are we talking about "Chicks Be Trippin'" (which I shall copyright tonight), or are we talking about [I]occasional [/I]sexism in games? Deliberate, or accidental sexism? Or, rape in games? Or, rules that discriminate against female characters in games? - Again, on the off chance that you're simply not getting what I mean, instead of being deliberately confrontational, those are many different things, not one. Again, and with the best intentions, I tell you, you're comparing apples and oranges. You seem to think of one specific kind of roleplaying; that is too narrow a point of view. For example, should I really go to my Dark Heresy group and tell them that, according to you, we are likely to support ethnic cleansings, as this is what our characters do? - Now, troll players, as you describe, again, are a completely different thing. Most of this is really just bickering about semantics. Does your group enjoy playing together? Because, as long as nobody complains, [I]chances are[/I] people actually enjoy playing together. The more subtle examples of perceived sexism are all debatable, and they are not game-related. Oh, well, yes it is. Because your conduct with strangers is different than with people you know and share a certain level of trust with. Hopefully. YES YES, because "sexism", that's really something when the average person doesn't think of men patting women's buttocks, but of Demi Moore talking Michael Douglas into submissively boinking her on an office chair. Totally gender-neutered statement! I get ya! Hating, I don't know. Discriminating against, for sure! Or was it a woman who was accused of her casual sexist remarks giving a PTSD patient a mental breakdown? :devil: [/QUOTE]
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