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<blockquote data-quote="Hammerforge" data-source="post: 6207649" data-attributes="member: 23564">Yes, math doesn't lie, but it's still clear that you're taking things to extremes because 1) strength is not the only path to greatness, even for fighters (consider the effects that dexterity bonuses have on combat, and there are no gender-based limits for dex in 1E), and 2) the mathematical differences you indicate do not even come close to amounting to the vast differences you're implying. The 18/01-50 bonuses are still significant, and while not &quot;great&quot; it would be safe to call them &quot;less great&quot; rather than bad or mediocre, which you seem to be implying. IOW, you are exaggerating to make your point, and your conclusion is a non sequitur.There are other paths, namely, dexterity. Also, you're confirming here what I suspected: Being limited to 18/01-50 strength is not a &quot;huge disadvantage.&quot; It's not as good an advantage as having 18/00 strength, but to call it a huge disadvantage is going to extremes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hammerforge, post: 6207649, member: 23564"] Yes, math doesn't lie, but it's still clear that you're taking things to extremes because 1) strength is not the only path to greatness, even for fighters (consider the effects that dexterity bonuses have on combat, and there are no gender-based limits for dex in 1E), and 2) the mathematical differences you indicate do not even come close to amounting to the vast differences you're implying. The 18/01-50 bonuses are still significant, and while not "great" it would be safe to call them "less great" rather than bad or mediocre, which you seem to be implying. IOW, you are exaggerating to make your point, and your conclusion is a non sequitur. There are other paths, namely, dexterity. Also, you're confirming here what I suspected: Being limited to 18/01-50 strength is not a "huge disadvantage." It's not as good an advantage as having 18/00 strength, but to call it a huge disadvantage is going to extremes. [/QUOTE]

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