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Shade Race from Dragon #307...ECL +2!?!
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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 854046" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>ECL does not change based upon class. It doesn't work that way. ECL is a measure of power based upon the average power of any given character level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not correct at all, and here's why. Take a 4th level wizard. Upon achieving 4th level, he gets an ability score increase due to character level, and he uses it to increase his Intelligence by +1. Now, at 8th level, he gets another increase and uses it to increase his Intelligence by yet another +1. His total Intelligence bonus is now +2, but what you are saying is that because he received that bonus, he now gains ECL +1, meaning he is now treated as a 9th level character.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter if he got the +2 bonus at 1st level or 8th level. The end result is the same, and the end result is that a +2 bonus to an ability score is worth only one-quarter of a character level, at the most. To put it into perspective though, a fighter's bonus feat isn't even worth that much of a character level, so you couldn't squeeze that into one of their feats. I just thought that was kinda neat. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyways, when you're only talking about a +2 bonus, its fairly easy to keep ECL in perspective. As the numbers get higher, it gets more difficult, but when they're this low, its not that bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 854046, member: 2829"] ECL does not change based upon class. It doesn't work that way. ECL is a measure of power based upon the average power of any given character level. This is not correct at all, and here's why. Take a 4th level wizard. Upon achieving 4th level, he gets an ability score increase due to character level, and he uses it to increase his Intelligence by +1. Now, at 8th level, he gets another increase and uses it to increase his Intelligence by yet another +1. His total Intelligence bonus is now +2, but what you are saying is that because he received that bonus, he now gains ECL +1, meaning he is now treated as a 9th level character. It doesn't matter if he got the +2 bonus at 1st level or 8th level. The end result is the same, and the end result is that a +2 bonus to an ability score is worth only one-quarter of a character level, at the most. To put it into perspective though, a fighter's bonus feat isn't even worth that much of a character level, so you couldn't squeeze that into one of their feats. I just thought that was kinda neat. :) Anyways, when you're only talking about a +2 bonus, its fairly easy to keep ECL in perspective. As the numbers get higher, it gets more difficult, but when they're this low, its not that bad. [/QUOTE]
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