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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mystraschosen" data-source="post: 662055" data-attributes="member: 9614">I am a fr player,but I have not played a shade,soooo.....I would say no from a technical point of view.It seems somehow wrong ruleswise. As a guy who likes to intellectualize about flights of fancy I would say yes,keep in mind that the shades have been living in the plane of shadow for so long that it would  be a neat spin to say they could see through magical darkness.I mean isn't the plane of shadow magical in a way.After living for so long on this other plane,they are bound to devolp some abilities pertaining to gloom and darkness....that's just adapting for you.And after all they have so many special abilities I wouldn't think a ruling as such would throw things off horribly or anything.Another thing is that in the errata the ruling for ecl has been left from 2-5 instead of 5.What ecl are you? If it is 2 I would say no,if you play at ecl 3 which to me is the logical ecl for a shade then I would say yes,because you would have payed for this ability in your level reduction.Hope that helps.</blockquote>