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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 5208433" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>Nor is an oversight difficult to imagine. I think the ambiguity is evident - in which case I would tend to err on the side of a more balanced and reasonable interpretation. <em>Shades</em> is already powerful and versatile - even for a 9th-level spell. You can duplicate half of the spells of arguably the most robust school. </p><p></p><p>You can already <em>trap the soul</em> - presumably without an expensive component - because someone unfortunately decided that this was a (summoning) spell. Do you really think that <em>maze</em>, <em>plane shift</em>, <em>greater teleport</em>, and <em>greater planar binding</em> were intended to fall within its purview? </p><p></p><p>How would you even begin to adjudicate <em>greater planar binding</em> using <em>shades</em>? Can you use a <em>magic circle</em>? A <em>dimensional anchor</em>? Do you need to make Charisma checks? Do you need to bargain with the not-creature whose existence you know is unreal? Can you do it all in 1 standard action?</p><p></p><p>Personally, I find an oversight rather more likely. But YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 5208433, member: 4303"] Nor is an oversight difficult to imagine. I think the ambiguity is evident - in which case I would tend to err on the side of a more balanced and reasonable interpretation. [I]Shades[/I] is already powerful and versatile - even for a 9th-level spell. You can duplicate half of the spells of arguably the most robust school. You can already [I]trap the soul[/I] - presumably without an expensive component - because someone unfortunately decided that this was a (summoning) spell. Do you really think that [I]maze[/I], [I]plane shift[/I], [I]greater teleport[/I], and [I]greater planar binding[/I] were intended to fall within its purview? How would you even begin to adjudicate [I]greater planar binding[/I] using [I]shades[/I]? Can you use a [I]magic circle[/I]? A [I]dimensional anchor[/I]? Do you need to make Charisma checks? Do you need to bargain with the not-creature whose existence you know is unreal? Can you do it all in 1 standard action? Personally, I find an oversight rather more likely. But YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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