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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1526131" data-attributes="member: 5890">Illusions produce sensory feedback.Stand near a wall.Close your eyes.Punch at the wall, but be careful about it.Now - which of the following happens:a) You break your hand and arm because you didn't feel the wallb) You reflexively stop the motion of your hand when it hurts.Voila - how mage armour works when you don't disbelieve it.If you really, really believe that to be true, then I cannot help you. You have wandered far from the realms of the actual rules.The rules say:Note specifically what this applies to - a shadow creature. Not a creature summoned by a shadow 'summon monster' spell, not an animal, not a humanoid.ANY SHADOW CREATURE.Mount summons a horse.Hell, even phantom steed states that it summons a &quot;horselike creature&quot;The rules are clear.The rules are clear. They are partially real. Unless disbelieved, they function how the individual spell states. The individual spells cover what they do quite well, perhaps with exceptions like mage armour (ie - is it a +1 ac if disbelieved or a +4 20% of the time?)The problems you see are simply not there. I disbelieve them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1526131, member: 5890"] Illusions produce sensory feedback. Stand near a wall. Close your eyes. Punch at the wall, but be careful about it. Now - which of the following happens: a) You break your hand and arm because you didn't feel the wall b) You reflexively stop the motion of your hand when it hurts. Voila - how mage armour works when you don't disbelieve it. If you really, really believe that to be true, then I cannot help you. You have wandered far from the realms of the actual rules. The rules say: Note specifically what this applies to - a shadow creature. Not a creature summoned by a shadow 'summon monster' spell, not an animal, not a humanoid. ANY SHADOW CREATURE. Mount summons a horse. Hell, even phantom steed states that it summons a "horselike creature" The rules are clear. The rules are clear. They are partially real. Unless disbelieved, they function how the individual spell states. The individual spells cover what they do quite well, perhaps with exceptions like mage armour (ie - is it a +1 ac if disbelieved or a +4 20% of the time?) The problems you see are simply not there. I disbelieve them. [/QUOTE]

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