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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1526245" data-attributes="member: 478">The rules are there, of course, but they are (to me at least) simply not working (or even meant) for those spells.As written, yes, a creature is a creature, but that is not what that part is about (IMHO). It only talks about creatures used to attack other creatures (IMHO).The mage armor example is good, tho. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Just that illusions normally (in many cases, shadow unfortunately doesn't really state how that particular stuff works) do not create sensory feedback for touch. The shadow illusion obviously does for the shadow portion, but the illusory portion? And why should someone hold the sword back, just because it 'hits armor', it's not like you are going to hurt yourself, if you try to punch through...Anyways... as stated above, this is not really something, that can be clearly decided upon, it's just a matter of personal preferance.One could go by the little the rules present and just apply it (what you do), or could see holes in those rules and translate them (what I do).ByeThanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1526245, member: 478"] The rules are there, of course, but they are (to me at least) simply not working (or even meant) for those spells. As written, yes, a creature is a creature, but that is not what that part is about (IMHO). It only talks about creatures used to attack other creatures (IMHO). The mage armor example is good, tho. :) Just that illusions normally (in many cases, shadow unfortunately doesn't really state how that particular stuff works) do not create sensory feedback for touch. The shadow illusion obviously does for the shadow portion, but the illusory portion? And why should someone hold the sword back, just because it 'hits armor', it's not like you are going to hurt yourself, if you try to punch through... Anyways... as stated above, this is not really something, that can be clearly decided upon, it's just a matter of personal preferance. One could go by the little the rules present and just apply it (what you do), or could see holes in those rules and translate them (what I do). Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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