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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 2521066" data-attributes="member: 2525">There are two categories of spells described in Shadow Conjuation: 1) DIRECT-DAMAGE ATTACKS AND SUMMONED CREATURES: "Spells that deal damage...[or] a shadow creature", and 2) INDIRECT ATTACKS AND OBJECTS: "attack [that] has a special effect other than damage...[or] shadow objects or substances".  Category 1 conjuations are 20% real.  Category 2 conjuations have a 20% chance of being 100% real, and a 80% chance of being 100% not real.  Those percentages go up as you specialize in this sort of thing with prestige classes and feats.Category 1 conjuations I think would work as you describe (knowing it's 80% illusion).  You're likely to make your save for those, because the level of the spell's reality is fixed in your mind.The spells we are talking about (the ones you cast on yourself) mostly fall into category 2.  They are mostly structures, transportation, concealment, and personal equipment.  That means they are not "20% real".  Instead, they have a 20% chance of being 100% real.  So your caster, more than anyone else, knows for certain that the thing you conjure stands a decent chance of being real.  You have a reasonable suspicion that it might not be real, but you are not at the point where you can actively totally disbelieve it too easily.  And as that chance creeps up to past 50% with specialized abilities, I'm thinking it would be darn hard TO disbelieve, knowing full well the odds are it will be just as real as anything else in the world.  The conjuation in these kinds of situations is akin to the cat in Schrodinger's cat theory, and you are the theoretical Schrodinger on the outside totally unsure if the "cat is alive/object is real" until your "open the box/interact with the object".  The cat/object is both alive/real and dead/illusion at once.  I just don't see how you can easily convince yourself that it's dead/illusion in that situation, knowing the uncertainty of your belief.</blockquote>

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