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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 1587561" data-attributes="member: 2358">I'm not sure I agree with that.  Negative levels are far more deadly than raw damage.  If the minimum is 1 and you make a save, then the saving throw should do something.In addition, the PH states that the rounding rule and 1 minimum applies to actual damage and hit points as well; negative levels don't count as either, technically speaking, and the PH states to go with what the entry says.  Unlike every other dragon entry, the shadow dragon's actually states to round down, and does not give a 1 minimum, so that implies strongly that if you save against 1, it goes to 0.5 and rounds down to 0.The only other advice I'd give is that, if you make the damage stick, you've got to let the successful saving throw do something else.  Otherwise, why would there even be a saving throw for the shadow dragons with 1 negative level damage?  If you can't round down to 0, there's no point rolling a saving throw at all.  So if you don't let it round down to 0 . . .Well, if they make the initial saving throw, you could always have the negative level just go away with no threat of level loss in that case.  It's that or make it 0 damage, but the initial saving throw must do SOMETHING.  If not, the shadow dragon would be totally broken.</blockquote>