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Message: <blockquote data-quote="n00bdragon" data-source="post: 6173479" data-attributes="member: 6689371">Except this is incorrect. There can only be shadow without light. Shadow is the absence of light. As has been pointed out night time is one giant shadow because the Earth is blocking the sun. This doesn't preclude there from being additional light sources which can also be blocked. Furthermore, the implications of such a ruling are bad for the game in two ways:1. The requirement takes away a fun and harmless ability from the player and puts it squarely under DM control, particularly at night time which ironically should be when the shadowdancer's player agency is at its highest.2. It requires the very sorts of pedantry and rules lawyering that the OP claims to dislike. Technically any light source is sufficient to create a shadow of some magnitude. Can a shadowdancer then hold his hand towards the nearest light source and teleport in the shadow it makes on his face? Can he teleport in the shadow of the red light from a skeleton's eyes? How deep does the shadow need to be before it's "teleportable"?</blockquote>