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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 637361" data-attributes="member: 5171">I don't usually come to RulesLand, but I've got a player whose sorcerer has picked up Greater Shadow Evocation, and he and I are running into disagreements on what would work when and where.Basically, the gist of it is, "How does the darn thing work?"  It's not listed as mind-affecting, so it even affects undead, correct?  What about evocation spells that don't involve saving throws?  Or that benefit people?  If he uses an evocation spell like Daylight or Continual Light or whatever it is to cancel a Darkness Spell, does everyone in the area have to save?  Does the caster of the darkness spell have to save?How about shadow evocation of Tenser's Floating Disk -- does he try to fail a save himself so that it carries the full weight, or does it automatically fail for him and is only 60% likely to carry the weight?  Same with Leomund's Tiny Hut -- does the caster try to blow his own save and just not mention the fact that it's only partially a real place to his friends?Pardon me if these are dumb questions that have been done to death.  Just asking the question has helped -- looking through here, I can see at least one spell he's used that isn't actually an evocation spell at all.-Tacky</blockquote>