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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5494251" data-attributes="member: 78116">I believe that issue needs errata (irony, delicious is it not?). It's difficult to determine if the intent is that you can choose to be affected by powers that affect undead/living creatures specifically, or powers that give you a choice. Some powers affect living creatures differently than undead creatures, so say will boost some while dealing damage to others. Vecna's aura is a good example of this kind of choice (Undead creatures regen, living creatures get damaged a bunch).Powers like turn undead do not present a choice, they target you if you're undead. The Vryloka is undead and so ends up targeted by the power, by the current RAW (as it's not giving you a choice of effects, unless the intent is not being affected is a choice here).Edit: Looking at what I've seen so far, the surge value penalty is just silly and does nothing. It will have some (small) impact on heroic but by epic it's pretty pointless. I'm just going to houserule it doesn't exist really at this point.</blockquote>