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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4693155" data-attributes="member: 82106">I agree with Smeelbo. There is quite a bit of difference between FG and SS.Lets say I want to move from one piece of concealment to another and I am already hidden. With FG if I do this I WILL be visible in the intervening squares. I can BECOME hidden again when I reach the next concealment (even if it is NOT total concealment, this is what the granting of a stealth check DOES, if it didn't why would it be mentioned). As an added benefit I avoid the -5 penalty to the new check. Note that enemies which can see me during the move can target me with OA or prepared actions, etc. In general they know I'm around, and logically they will probably make minor action perception checks to locate me at the destination square, or simply target the square itself if they are at all intelligent monsters.SS is MUCH better. I can now move between one cover and the other and assuming I make the stealth check (again with the -5 penalty removed) I AM NEVER SEEN AT ALL. The benefits of being hidden remain the entire time and no monster will even have a reason to imagine that I'm there, they've seen nothing.As for the "benefit of being hidden is removed at the end of the action", this is NOT intended to be interpreted to remain that you ARE still hidden during the action. It means the benefits to YOU do not "expire" until the action is finished, so for example if you attack while hidden you have CA because the advantage of being hidden (the CA) continues to the end of the action. This was a necessary errata because otherwise one could easily interpret the stealth rules in such a way that CA could NEVER be granted by being hidden. Even more to the point it works with Deft Strike.So the two powers FG and SS are similar in some respects, but SS is almost a superset of FG. The only real advantage of FG is it doesn't require you to START hidden, which means you can use it to 'dart into cover' and hide (IE you leap into the bushes and disappear all in a flash). SS OTOH is MUCH better in that it actually lets you move ANYWHERE and BE hidden during the move. There is some overlap in their uses, but it would certainly be handy to have both powers.</blockquote>

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