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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Black Knight Irios" data-source="post: 4695996" data-attributes="member: 8853">Thank you, for backing up your point with rules.Ok, there must be something like unseen ruleswise. But it is no definded term. OTOH, invis is one. And invis is probably what they should have written.This is what is written in the stealth update:The FAQ doesn't add anything to that, it calls invis unseen which is simply not good because it substitutes unseen for invis and unseen is not a defined term ruleswise. Even worse, they left out that you are silent.So either the FAQ is erroneous or the updated stealth rules.You admit that I have all the benefits of being hidden regarding SR1 (I still call it SR1 but I agree that it does not trump GR1-4). Ok it doesn't say you are still hidden but you retain the benefits. Indeed, that is not the same. Now we take a look at the benefits of being hidden: invis + silent, stealth update (or unseen FAQ).Result: You are not hidden but invis and silent which is equal to being hidden most of the time. There might be powers/etc. that require you to be hidden but most of the time there is no big difference between being hidden and just having the benefits of being hidden.And with this I'm back to saying that the last sentence of SS is useless ruleswise and depending on the interpretation of FG, FG is bettter than SS.</blockquote>