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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8359520" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>This is why I'm not a fan of the Sorcerer concept other than the Wild Mage. The original intent was that other than the Wild Mage you were supposed to be directly descended from an innate magical creature and that's why you have sorcerous powers. But that pretty much overlaps with what races do. If you are a descendant of a fiend you are a tiefling... not a fiendish sorcerer. The genasi are supposed to be the descendants of genies and the elemental planes, which renders the storm sorcerer moot.</p><p></p><p>At the very least... I can kind of accept the draconic bloodline sorcerer origin because in that case the dragon from whom you descended from could polymorph into the race you currently are when they engaged in coitus with your ascendant. Even that's kind of tenuous, but at least it's partially explainable why you could have dragon blood while still a human, dwarf, elf etc. (whereas a fiend that reproduced with a human resulted in a half-human/half-fiend creature, aka tiefling and celestial beings who got with humans produced aasimar.) And Shadow sorcerers should actually be racial Shades or Shadar-kai.</p><p></p><p>But now WotC just makes up any reason whatsoever why someone has magic, even something as tenuous as that an ascendant hung around with Modrons and now you have a "clockwork soul". Really? Then where are the sorcerer origins for the other 15 Outer Planes? Why does Mechanus get special treatment?</p><p></p><p>If you are going to receive magic by just making googly-eyes at some magical extra-planar being... that's what I think they warlock is supposed to be. You don't have their blood (because if you did, it'd be represented by your race not your class) but you can use their magic. That to me makes much more sense and is cleaner than the muck of sorcery in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8359520, member: 7006"] This is why I'm not a fan of the Sorcerer concept other than the Wild Mage. The original intent was that other than the Wild Mage you were supposed to be directly descended from an innate magical creature and that's why you have sorcerous powers. But that pretty much overlaps with what races do. If you are a descendant of a fiend you are a tiefling... not a fiendish sorcerer. The genasi are supposed to be the descendants of genies and the elemental planes, which renders the storm sorcerer moot. At the very least... I can kind of accept the draconic bloodline sorcerer origin because in that case the dragon from whom you descended from could polymorph into the race you currently are when they engaged in coitus with your ascendant. Even that's kind of tenuous, but at least it's partially explainable why you could have dragon blood while still a human, dwarf, elf etc. (whereas a fiend that reproduced with a human resulted in a half-human/half-fiend creature, aka tiefling and celestial beings who got with humans produced aasimar.) And Shadow sorcerers should actually be racial Shades or Shadar-kai. But now WotC just makes up any reason whatsoever why someone has magic, even something as tenuous as that an ascendant hung around with Modrons and now you have a "clockwork soul". Really? Then where are the sorcerer origins for the other 15 Outer Planes? Why does Mechanus get special treatment? If you are going to receive magic by just making googly-eyes at some magical extra-planar being... that's what I think they warlock is supposed to be. You don't have their blood (because if you did, it'd be represented by your race not your class) but you can use their magic. That to me makes much more sense and is cleaner than the muck of sorcery in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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