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<blockquote data-quote="ElectricDragon" data-source="post: 2944507" data-attributes="member: 10778">Because of the relative level differences between the shadow and other party members (mainly the cleric) I would not encourage anyone to try turning my shadow. Look at the description again: Immune to turning, rebuking, and commanding. It says nothing at all about being immune to destroying. If the cleric's level equals or exceeds two times the shadow's HD, the shadow is destroyed if the turning damage result is high enough.IMC it is a shadow no matter what HD it has. No greater shadows here. This is not an advanced monster but rather a special cohort/companion/pet. If the shadow improves enough to gain another feat, the player chooses which feat it gains. IMHO I don't think Improved Natural Attack would work for an incorporeal touch attack. The attack doesn't actually do damage at all; so what would be increased &quot;as if its size had increased by one category&quot;? Its connection to the negative energy plane? Are there any incorporeal creatures in RAW out there that have taken this feat?The shadowdancer IMC summoned his shadow while he was in a desecrated area and therefore gained +1hp/HD for his companion; but this bonus did not apply to later-gained HD.CiaoDaveEdit: 12th level shadowdancer is epic level. Ask your DM. IMC the answer would be no.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ElectricDragon, post: 2944507, member: 10778"] Because of the relative level differences between the shadow and other party members (mainly the cleric) I would not encourage anyone to try turning my shadow. Look at the description again: Immune to turning, rebuking, and commanding. It says nothing at all about being immune to destroying. If the cleric's level equals or exceeds two times the shadow's HD, the shadow is destroyed if the turning damage result is high enough. IMC it is a shadow no matter what HD it has. No greater shadows here. This is not an advanced monster but rather a special cohort/companion/pet. If the shadow improves enough to gain another feat, the player chooses which feat it gains. IMHO I don't think Improved Natural Attack would work for an incorporeal touch attack. The attack doesn't actually do damage at all; so what would be increased "as if its size had increased by one category"? Its connection to the negative energy plane? Are there any incorporeal creatures in RAW out there that have taken this feat? The shadowdancer IMC summoned his shadow while he was in a desecrated area and therefore gained +1hp/HD for his companion; but this bonus did not apply to later-gained HD. Ciao Dave Edit: 12th level shadowdancer is epic level. Ask your DM. IMC the answer would be no. [/QUOTE]

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