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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 2069666" data-attributes="member: 26590">You have the sniping thing down, but your example #2 is a bit off.I take this to mean the penalty applies any time you attempt to perform one of these actions in the same round as you attempt to hide.  Therefore your example would be:EX 2) For her standard action, she sneak attacks her target with a melee weapon. For her move action, she makes a hide check (with a -20 penalty) AND can move 1/2 her movement rate since you can hide as part of a move action.This assumes that, as per the shadowancer ability, you remain within 10' of "some sort of shadow".  Technically the rules would allow you to hide from an opponent within their own shadow, but I certainly wouldn't allow it.  I would require a patch of shadow at least 5' square.</blockquote>