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<blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5531620" data-attributes="member: 6674931"><p>?? How does that beat disguise ??</p><p></p><p>Can you impersonate a figure you can't reach?</p><p>Can you impersonate a dead figure?</p><p>Can you impersonate a figure that is supposed to be someplace else while you assume his role (e.g. in public), ergo disguise without setting off the alarm?</p><p>How good can you act as "the figure"?</p><p></p><p>Nope. A maxed out disguise cannot be beat so easily.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are clever ways to disguise your scent. Using the figure's own clothes helps a lot. You can always find reasons to carry items with a heavy odor as well (e.g. dead game, perfume, soil after a hard days work.) It all depends on the figure you are trying to impersonate. These techniques are known to work on real life dogs... No reason they shouldn't work in the game</p><p>...Also... you should not be afraid... for fear smells from far away<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>A nice challenge being a straight rogue isn't it?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So VERY WRONG!!</p><p></p><p>...Imagine Education relying solely on talent... waiting for the next Einstein to push science forth...</p><p>Nope that's not how it works. Its the average of any given population that sets the tempo of progress... and its the educational system (among other factors) that sets this "average".</p><p>In short: The RP books we read, define what kind of players we become.</p><p>I can clearly see from personal experience that players who have gotten into White Wolf at some point, are far better ROLE players than any D&D geek.</p><p>Chance? Hardly...</p><p>In the early books, White Wolf has touched RPlaying and Storytelling in ways WotC cannot even begin to imagine. TSR wasn't any good at that, i admit, yet a less complicated system lets gamers focus more on the story than the system itself. If a rule did not cover a given situation... hell the group decided on the spot how to resolve it and the story kept its flow... In 3.5... you have to call your lawyer up so as to make a move action..</p><p></p><p>You dance to the music they play you.</p><p></p><p>Truth is there is nobody else to blame for the players' shortcomings other than the books they are given, the system they are given.</p><p>I 've watched a few session of 4e on the internet so as to witness how they simplified it... yet i could not see the improvements. I cannot see how putting an attack roll on fireball can simplify anything. Nor can i see how a system with... what is it now 4 or 5 PHBs?... can be simple at all.</p><p>4e will get heavier than 3.x ...i'm positive about that</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>ohh... you shouldn't<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Am I? Not really.. Not if you can read past your steadfast beliefs...</p><p>I must have struck a cord there somewhere... otherwise i cannot justify such a reaction...</p><p>Its funny how you call me old man over and over again... i'm sure we don't have that much of a difference in age.</p><p>However, i'd advise you to give a little thought on whom the "old man" really is, between us two, taking into account your 3000 posts in this forum...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimlock, post: 5531620, member: 6674931"] ?? How does that beat disguise ?? Can you impersonate a figure you can't reach? Can you impersonate a dead figure? Can you impersonate a figure that is supposed to be someplace else while you assume his role (e.g. in public), ergo disguise without setting off the alarm? How good can you act as "the figure"? Nope. A maxed out disguise cannot be beat so easily. There are clever ways to disguise your scent. Using the figure's own clothes helps a lot. You can always find reasons to carry items with a heavy odor as well (e.g. dead game, perfume, soil after a hard days work.) It all depends on the figure you are trying to impersonate. These techniques are known to work on real life dogs... No reason they shouldn't work in the game ...Also... you should not be afraid... for fear smells from far away;) A nice challenge being a straight rogue isn't it?:D So VERY WRONG!! ...Imagine Education relying solely on talent... waiting for the next Einstein to push science forth... Nope that's not how it works. Its the average of any given population that sets the tempo of progress... and its the educational system (among other factors) that sets this "average". In short: The RP books we read, define what kind of players we become. I can clearly see from personal experience that players who have gotten into White Wolf at some point, are far better ROLE players than any D&D geek. Chance? Hardly... In the early books, White Wolf has touched RPlaying and Storytelling in ways WotC cannot even begin to imagine. TSR wasn't any good at that, i admit, yet a less complicated system lets gamers focus more on the story than the system itself. If a rule did not cover a given situation... hell the group decided on the spot how to resolve it and the story kept its flow... In 3.5... you have to call your lawyer up so as to make a move action.. You dance to the music they play you. Truth is there is nobody else to blame for the players' shortcomings other than the books they are given, the system they are given. I 've watched a few session of 4e on the internet so as to witness how they simplified it... yet i could not see the improvements. I cannot see how putting an attack roll on fireball can simplify anything. Nor can i see how a system with... what is it now 4 or 5 PHBs?... can be simple at all. 4e will get heavier than 3.x ...i'm positive about that ohh... you shouldn't;) Am I? Not really.. Not if you can read past your steadfast beliefs... I must have struck a cord there somewhere... otherwise i cannot justify such a reaction... Its funny how you call me old man over and over again... i'm sure we don't have that much of a difference in age. However, i'd advise you to give a little thought on whom the "old man" really is, between us two, taking into account your 3000 posts in this forum... [/QUOTE]
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