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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1936624" data-attributes="member: 478">What I always like to point out when someone is quoting the above list...So, there you have the list of things, True Seeing does not. Also no listing of HiPS. So it neither does nor does not see through the ability according to the spell description. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Also, it's interesting to note, that True Seeing contradicts itself there... "It does not negate concealment", yet it "sees through normal and magical darkness", or Blur/Displacement. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Obviously they speak only of physical concealment there... including fog, bushes and the like.And HiPS - which is the big problem with the ability - does not state at all, what it is and how it works, it only lists mechanics, and even those fail to cover the ability completely. All we know is, that it is a magical ability, which uses the Hide mechanics. It's clearly not mundane hiding ("simply hiding"), and you clearly do not have physical cover or concealment when hiding that way (well, you could, but then you were not hiding in plain sight, really).So some guesswork is required to give it a reasonable funcionality. Because the rules do not say at all what happens, when someone is hiding in plain sight.True Seeing gives you the ability to see all things as they actually are.So what is a shadowdancer hiding in an open space with no physical cover whatsoever?A person standing right in front of you.True Seeing does allow to pentrate magical disguises and magical means of concealment, but it does not allow to penetrate physical objects or concealment and thus see someone who is simply hiding (behind a physical object or concealment).To me, there is only one reasonable conclusion, that True Seeing allows to see someone hiding in plain sight. Because there is nothing hindering the spell from working at all.Anyways, what I have noted above in my first post... this is what I do.I don't say, this is what the rules say, because they clearly do not say anything at all here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />ByeThanee</blockquote>

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