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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 1938257" data-attributes="member: 3424">Agree.Agree, but with qualifiers (see next bit).Here's where I don't agree. Magical darkness grants concealment. A rogue can use the concealment granted by magical darkness to make a Hide check. True seeing allows a person to see through magical darkness. If the rogue has no other source of cover or concealment, and no extraordinary ability to hide in plain sight, true seeing would automatically reveal the presence of the rogue. The Hide check becomes irrelevant in this case, because the rogue cannot make one in the first place (at least, not against the person with true seeing).Similarly, in the case of the shadowdancer, he has the supernatural ability to hide when he would otherwise not be able to. True seeing negates his use of that ability, so he cannot even make a Hide check in the first place.Contrast this with the same rogue hiding in undergrowth (which provides concealment). True seeing cannot see through the undergrowth, and so the rogue can make his Hide check normally.Anyway, after reading through several Shadowdancer Hide in Plain Sight threads, I've decided on how it works in my campaigns. When a Shadowdancer is near a shadow, he has the ability to leach the colors from himself and his possessions. When the Hide in Plain Sight ability is active, he appears as an almost transparent black-and-white image of himself. True seeing reveals him, but not darkvision. Effectively, it's like a weak form of invisibility that requires him to keep making Hide checks.</blockquote>

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