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Shadowdancer's Hide in plain Sight
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1944493" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>One question... would you allow a medium-sized ranger to hide on a huge 1"-high grass area (he's not wearing appropriate camo-clothing and the area is completely flat) while surrounded by a horde of people who watch him?</p><p></p><p>By the rules he can do that. And if noone makes a Spot check against his Hide check, noone will know where he is.</p><p></p><p>It's quite obviously completely ridiculous, that he can do that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>That's about the same with the shadowdancer... unless you interprete the ability in some way like the way I have explained above, which in turn leads me to the conclusion that <em>True Seeing</em> will foil that ability, the shadowdancer's hiding ability is just plain ridiculous and humanly (or nonhumanly <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) impossible.</p><p></p><p>Therefore (to me) it can only be the magic, which hides the shadowdancer, not the skill. The skill is just used as a mechanic, but the actual hiding is done with magic, because there is otherwise no way to hide.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't know about you, but to me the ability is first and foremost a supernatural ability (just what it is, at least it is labeled as that), not a skill. It only makes use of a skill as a mechanical tool.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1944493, member: 478"] One question... would you allow a medium-sized ranger to hide on a huge 1"-high grass area (he's not wearing appropriate camo-clothing and the area is completely flat) while surrounded by a horde of people who watch him? By the rules he can do that. And if noone makes a Spot check against his Hide check, noone will know where he is. It's quite obviously completely ridiculous, that he can do that. ;) That's about the same with the shadowdancer... unless you interprete the ability in some way like the way I have explained above, which in turn leads me to the conclusion that [i]True Seeing[/i] will foil that ability, the shadowdancer's hiding ability is just plain ridiculous and humanly (or nonhumanly ;)) impossible. Therefore (to me) it can only be the magic, which hides the shadowdancer, not the skill. The skill is just used as a mechanic, but the actual hiding is done with magic, because there is otherwise no way to hide. Don't know about you, but to me the ability is first and foremost a supernatural ability (just what it is, at least it is labeled as that), not a skill. It only makes use of a skill as a mechanical tool. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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