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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ashockney" data-source="post: 473353" data-attributes="member: 1363">First off, check out this month's Sage Advice in Dragon magazine (it may actually even reference HiPS).  The bottom line is that it is a Move Equivalent Action, not a Standard Action to use the Hide skill, this is also true for HiPS.  Second, Hide in Plain Sight isn't broken, including when you use it against an opponent (while hasted of course) attack -hide- attack and throw on your Expert Tactician free attack as well!  Hello sneak attack!  Broken?  I said no.  Fighter can stand there "doing nothing special" and match or exceed this damage routine without blinking an eye, and take a few hits in return.  If some of your typical "big CR" creatures land a punch on that rogue, he's meat.  In addition, there are SCADS of counter-measures: Truesight, Scent, Tremorsense, and Dragonsense as well as ALL THE CREATURES IMMUNE TO CRITICALS.  Limiting this ability in any way will significantly penalize a rogue who had to make sacrifices elsewhere to earn this ability.  Rogues who don't seek HiPS should be working their way towards scroll/magic item use, and abusing Improved Invis or Blink.  If they don't they'll be falling behind their peers.Finally, IMHO what is broken, is the level this ability becomes available in the prestige class.  It should be third level at least.  I have posted before about how poorly planned many of the prestige classes are, and not mindful of the "multi-prestige-classing" of our favorite PC munchkins.PS - If you don't see my points as true, b/c PC's in your campaigns would NEVER consider using such tactics, please don't bother to respond.  I respect that you play the game differently.  That's great, your're not right, I'm not wrong (and vice versa), it's just a different style of play.  I THINK the poster is asking more from the "traditional" power gamer type play.  The fact he has a PC who even identified Shadowdancer as a class to take is a good sign of that.  If that's not true, please disregard.</blockquote>

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