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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mythago" data-source="post: 473762" data-attributes="member: 3019">On the min-maxing player problem, remember that this is a PRESTIGE class. It has a lot of prerequisites to take it.  It also requires the DM to permit the class in the context of his or her campaign.A common DM rule for prestige classes is that many of them are limited in who will teach them and under what circumstances. "Okay, I take a level of Shadowdancer!" No, you have to find someone who will teach you the mystic ways of shadow, and how are you gonna find one of these secretive people in the first place? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />In my own D&D game, the GM made me spend weeks (of game time, not real time) playing cat-and-mouse with the shadowdancer who ended up training me. Eventually I learned that he is a sort of demigod, and becoming his prentice a) meant choosing sides in the gods' war and b) attracting the attention of a number of other, shall we say, powerful interests. When your master plays chess, you may end up a pawn... Weird freaky shadow-power juju. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  But I wouldn't call it an illusion in the sense that certain magic spells are illusions.</blockquote>

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