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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9679334" data-attributes="member: 18">ROFL what are you talking about? No, the "chances are" not that at all. Artists have galleries. Artists have histories. Artists can send the layered files that show how the art was constructed.Hell, just look at the Kickstarter we're discussing, they SHOW THIS, because they're proud not to use AI! So they show the progress of an art piece, which is naturally recorded by all real art tools! If someone can't send you those files, that's how you know they used AI. And so-called "visual prompt" stuff is just a failed attempt to launder AI art - it's no different from any other AI art.It's not complicated, it's not hard, and you can't be tricked unless you want to be, and don't look into it. That's on you if you intentionally choose to:A) Not look at the history and galleries of an artist you're hiring or buying from.B) Not ask for the actual layered files which contain the history of the piece being constructed. Again note this isn't some "special new thing", this has been how art programs have worked for multiple decades!And even before AI people sometimes wanted them to ensure than artist hadn't just nicked a piece off someone else or the like.You literally don't get to complain about ethics and classism if you're suggesting the use of a tool founded entirely on stealing the art of millions of working people by a tiny ultra-wealthy elite, and then using it to develop a clumsy tool to attempt to put those working people out of a job lol. What a ridiculous position lol! Even if you don't consider that illegal, it is unquestionable deeply unethical and obviously morally wrong, and it's classist in the very straightforward sense that these AI tools have been created and funded by extremely rich people to take money out of the pocket of working class and (more rarely) middle class people and put in the pockets of talentless already-rich people.Also, what social class do you think most people who write RPGs are and pay for art are? Because I guarantee you the vast majority of them are working class and middle class, and I'm pretty sure you're middle class. In fact if anything, the most reliable commitment to paying for art is usually from working class people, so claiming "classism" here is fascinating.You know that countless RPG products are released every month with no AI art, by people who can't draw, who just pay for very cheap art libraries or use public domain art, right? And those products sell, some of them very well, so are inherently "saleable". Plus, if you think AI art makes products "saleable", you should probably think again - a lot of people won't buy works with AI art at all and it's a lot more obvious than people think.</blockquote>

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