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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8969239" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>I am aware. I have been playing D&D since 1979 and have played all the versions of the game but OD&D and 4E. I wasn't aware that it was necessary to give my resume in every post.</p><p></p><p>So what?</p><p></p><p>I can pick up the Caves of Chaos and run it without effort under Shadowdark. That's compatible for me, in the sense that "I can run this at the table without real effort."</p><p></p><p>Compatibility is not a religious dogma. If you want everything to exactly match BX, then only BX and its retroclones are truly "compatible." And when we get to that point, every other OSR game is incompatible.</p><p></p><p>But that's also demanding a level of compatibility beyond how people <em>actually played AD&D and BD&D.</em> It was incredibly common for people to play a BD&D adventure with AD&D rules, despite slight numerical differences between the two rulesets. Only Gygax on his bad days thought this was a problem.</p><p></p><p>They have a complete set (including every single printing, so it's a very aggressive version of "complete") of the original adventures, followed by a 5E update. So the original versions of In Search of the Unknown and Keep on the Borderlands in all their BD&D glory are in Into the Borderlands in addition to the 5E.</p><p></p><p>So I am talking about running the originals.</p><p></p><p>No, that's not what I'm saying at all.</p><p></p><p>I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who actually DMs games, rather than hoards RPGs, and I'm saying that I can grab a BD&D or AD&D adventure, or an OSR adventure, and other than having to do a simple swap on monsters with descending armor class, I can run the adventures in Shadowdark without effort.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who is concerned that an ogre's armor class might be a little off from what it says in the rulebook is invited to find a different game where they're more comfortable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8969239, member: 11760"] I am aware. I have been playing D&D since 1979 and have played all the versions of the game but OD&D and 4E. I wasn't aware that it was necessary to give my resume in every post. So what? I can pick up the Caves of Chaos and run it without effort under Shadowdark. That's compatible for me, in the sense that "I can run this at the table without real effort." Compatibility is not a religious dogma. If you want everything to exactly match BX, then only BX and its retroclones are truly "compatible." And when we get to that point, every other OSR game is incompatible. But that's also demanding a level of compatibility beyond how people [I]actually played AD&D and BD&D.[/I] It was incredibly common for people to play a BD&D adventure with AD&D rules, despite slight numerical differences between the two rulesets. Only Gygax on his bad days thought this was a problem. They have a complete set (including every single printing, so it's a very aggressive version of "complete") of the original adventures, followed by a 5E update. So the original versions of In Search of the Unknown and Keep on the Borderlands in all their BD&D glory are in Into the Borderlands in addition to the 5E. So I am talking about running the originals. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who actually DMs games, rather than hoards RPGs, and I'm saying that I can grab a BD&D or AD&D adventure, or an OSR adventure, and other than having to do a simple swap on monsters with descending armor class, I can run the adventures in Shadowdark without effort. Anyone who is concerned that an ogre's armor class might be a little off from what it says in the rulebook is invited to find a different game where they're more comfortable. [/QUOTE]
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