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<blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2662246" data-attributes="member: 35863">You gave over a vast number of Feats as combat abilities, that was one of the major bits I noticed.&nbsp; I don't know that I agree with that, unless these guys are just your go-to damage dealers.&nbsp; I see a lot of blending among the Thief/Barbarian/Monk total ability list, but at first glance (without leafing through the SRD to do a double-check) they seem over-powered to me, and their Feat selection then becomes more limited.I'm familiar (enough) with the style rules from OA/Rokugan (I never remember which is which) to recognize that you're referring to it, but I'm unclear as to which styles you're using.&nbsp; My understanding of the post is such that these guys are just gaining feats end over end until 20th level.&nbsp; There's little or no reason to leave the class for a PrC that I can see, not even Sacred Fist or the C.Arcane version, Enlightend Fist.&nbsp; These guys are just that powerful.Some of the abilities you list require No Armor; have you retained the Monk WIS+ to AC?&nbsp; I didn't see it listed, and I know better than to assume without some grounds to support it, but please clarify how you see their final AC build (with their dodge bonus, as well, because I'm trying to understanding if they're built for high ATT power with no staying power, or if they're meant to be 100% agile).We've already discussed that I don't know your mechanics exactly, but I'm assuming, based on those prior posts, that the skills they get are balanced against their BAB and that they're slated to not hit as often as Fighters, whom you've said are simply brutal in that regard.I'm not familiar with Dervish off the top of my head; is the 22nd level power based on them, because it sounds familiar enough that I think it is, but I'm not certain.&nbsp; This would go back to my statement that there isn't any reason to leave the class.Are you using PrCs?&nbsp; You refer to leaving the class, but your two fully developed classes, this &amp; Druid, are both well developed enough that there's no point in leaving them.Good morning.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thia Halmades, post: 2662246, member: 35863"] You gave over a vast number of Feats as combat abilities, that was one of the major bits I noticed. I don't know that I agree with that, unless these guys are just your go-to damage dealers. I see a lot of blending among the Thief/Barbarian/Monk total ability list, but at first glance (without leafing through the SRD to do a double-check) they seem over-powered to me, and their Feat selection then becomes more limited. I'm familiar (enough) with the style rules from OA/Rokugan (I never remember which is which) to recognize that you're referring to it, but I'm unclear as to which styles you're using. My understanding of the post is such that these guys are just gaining feats end over end until 20th level. There's little or no reason to leave the class for a PrC that I can see, not even Sacred Fist or the C.Arcane version, Enlightend Fist. These guys are just that powerful. Some of the abilities you list require No Armor; have you retained the Monk WIS+ to AC? I didn't see it listed, and I know better than to assume without some grounds to support it, but please clarify how you see their final AC build (with their dodge bonus, as well, because I'm trying to understanding if they're built for high ATT power with no staying power, or if they're meant to be 100% agile). We've already discussed that I don't know your mechanics exactly, but I'm assuming, based on those prior posts, that the skills they get are balanced against their BAB and that they're slated to not hit as often as Fighters, whom you've said are simply brutal in that regard. I'm not familiar with Dervish off the top of my head; is the 22nd level power based on them, because it sounds familiar enough that I think it is, but I'm not certain. This would go back to my statement that there isn't any reason to leave the class. Are you using PrCs? You refer to leaving the class, but your two fully developed classes, this & Druid, are both well developed enough that there's no point in leaving them. Good morning. [/QUOTE]

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