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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4209790" data-attributes="member: 710">Interesting. That's my problem, too. How should an effective Shadowrun adventure, heck a succesful Shadowrun campaign look like? Basically, the traditional &quot;run&quot; is what a dungeon crawl is for D&amp;D. You could to it a thousand times, but it gets boring. There is no creativity in it. You can't really tell interesting stories, since the characters basically just infiltrate, kill some guards, steal some data, and get out. They don't interact with anyone in interesting ways.I suppose I should pick up the Screen and heed your advice below, if I ever come back to running an SR game again. I think our group's saying is somewhere above, but I'll repeat it: &quot;It isn't Shadowrun if Johnson doesn't frack* you twice&quot;. Off course, it gets old, very fast, and I'd try to avoid it. There wouldn't be any Shadowrunner around if that would happen every time. (Or no Johnsons any more. Shadowrunners are vicious, and revenge is a dish best served violently...)I think the larger idea behind Johnson screwing you is that there has to be a twist in every story. And since the only real &quot;story-part&quot; is with Johnson, he has to screw you over. If the characters were more involved int he story behind a run, you could do a lot more interesting stuff.But even within the limits, there are other possibilities.- Johnson doesn't try to screw you, but someone tries to screw him. The runners must intervene, if they want to survive.- Johnson was misinformed, and the target you are extracting/stealing/infiltrating is not what it seems to be. - You get to screw Johnson. There is a counter-offer around, and it's good (the &quot;it's good&quot; part can be hard - screwing your Johnson is not good for a runners reputation)Nope, not really. I really wish I had.*or screw, if you prefer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4209790, member: 710"] Interesting. That's my problem, too. How should an effective Shadowrun adventure, heck a succesful Shadowrun campaign look like? Basically, the traditional "run" is what a dungeon crawl is for D&D. You could to it a thousand times, but it gets boring. There is no creativity in it. You can't really tell interesting stories, since the characters basically just infiltrate, kill some guards, steal some data, and get out. They don't interact with anyone in interesting ways. I suppose I should pick up the Screen and heed your advice below, if I ever come back to running an SR game again. I think our group's saying is somewhere above, but I'll repeat it: "It isn't Shadowrun if Johnson doesn't frack* you twice". Off course, it gets old, very fast, and I'd try to avoid it. There wouldn't be any Shadowrunner around if that would happen every time. (Or no Johnsons any more. Shadowrunners are vicious, and revenge is a dish best served violently...) I think the larger idea behind Johnson screwing you is that there has to be a twist in every story. And since the only real "story-part" is with Johnson, he has to screw you over. If the characters were more involved int he story behind a run, you could do a lot more interesting stuff. But even within the limits, there are other possibilities. - Johnson doesn't try to screw you, but someone tries to screw him. The runners must intervene, if they want to survive. - Johnson was misinformed, and the target you are extracting/stealing/infiltrating is not what it seems to be. - You get to screw Johnson. There is a counter-offer around, and it's good (the "it's good" part can be hard - screwing your Johnson is not good for a runners reputation) Nope, not really. I really wish I had. [size=1]*or screw, if you prefer.[/size] [/QUOTE]

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