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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 3904179" data-attributes="member: 23619"><p>Scrolls, potions, whatever. My point is, the guy had options--more than just stand there and die. </p><p></p><p>Yes, I caught that he got caught by flat footed, so no dex bonuses. But like I mentioned, he should have had at least a +2-3 bonus on his armor, maybe the same on his shield, and maybe a +1-2 ring or something. And the enhancement bonuses still count to touch AC, so his AC should have been at least 14+, not counting the possibility of either Shield of Faith or Magical Vestment or something like that that still could have been in effect, and then as soon as he acts, he gets his dex and dodge bonuses which should have added something.</p><p></p><p>The cleric could have ran, at least to his companions for help, if not somewhere else safe(r). Like I said, its embarrassing that a 9th level anything could be killed by such a weak monster. Yes, they are dangerous, but a 9th level character, even out of spells, should be more dangerous still! If they were fighting undead all day or whatever, he still should have kept at least 1 turn attempt just for something like this, especially knowing that undead were in the area.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Where exactly did you come up with this? By "strict" do you mean your interpretation? The spell Lesser Restoration is pretty specific about what it does, restores temporary ability score damage. If the character has temporary ability score damage, it restores it. And the spell description even specifically states, "...such as from a Shadow's touch...". There is no "specific spell-effect" to choose from. The effect is the restoration of temporary ability damage (if the character has temporary ability damage, the spell works) and only a jack-ass DM would make a that spell restore 1 temporary point from something else when the character is <strong>dying</strong> on the spot from Str loss. There's nothing in the spell description that states the caster or the target get to <em>choose</em> what score gets restored either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 3904179, member: 23619"] Scrolls, potions, whatever. My point is, the guy had options--more than just stand there and die. Yes, I caught that he got caught by flat footed, so no dex bonuses. But like I mentioned, he should have had at least a +2-3 bonus on his armor, maybe the same on his shield, and maybe a +1-2 ring or something. And the enhancement bonuses still count to touch AC, so his AC should have been at least 14+, not counting the possibility of either Shield of Faith or Magical Vestment or something like that that still could have been in effect, and then as soon as he acts, he gets his dex and dodge bonuses which should have added something. The cleric could have ran, at least to his companions for help, if not somewhere else safe(r). Like I said, its embarrassing that a 9th level anything could be killed by such a weak monster. Yes, they are dangerous, but a 9th level character, even out of spells, should be more dangerous still! If they were fighting undead all day or whatever, he still should have kept at least 1 turn attempt just for something like this, especially knowing that undead were in the area. Where exactly did you come up with this? By "strict" do you mean your interpretation? The spell Lesser Restoration is pretty specific about what it does, restores temporary ability score damage. If the character has temporary ability score damage, it restores it. And the spell description even specifically states, "...such as from a Shadow's touch...". There is no "specific spell-effect" to choose from. The effect is the restoration of temporary ability damage (if the character has temporary ability damage, the spell works) and only a jack-ass DM would make a that spell restore 1 temporary point from something else when the character is [B]dying[/B] on the spot from Str loss. There's nothing in the spell description that states the caster or the target get to [I]choose[/I] what score gets restored either. [/QUOTE]
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