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Shake It Off vs. Dazed
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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 4635838" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>Why not? It's still his turn, and he is <em>no longer dazed</em>. If he was slowed instead of dazed at the start of his turn, and he used Shake It Off to make the save as his first action, then moved, would you say his speed is still only 2 because he was slowed at the <em>start</em> of his turn?</p><p> </p><p><em>Edit: D'oh! Ninja'ed by Hazard 53188!</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I don't see why. Under your ruling, the Warlord's power operates differently on everyone else but him (in that if the Warlord uses it as soon as possible on another character, and that character makes his save, the character never suffers any actual effect from being dazed, but if he uses it as soon as possible on himself, and makes his save, he still suffers the full effect of being dazed). Shake It Off doesn't look to me like one of those powers that is intended to be less effective when used on the warlord himself, so it doesn't seem at all cheesy to me to rule that it <em>isn't</em> less effective when used on the warlord himself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 4635838, member: 40109"] Why not? It's still his turn, and he is [I]no longer dazed[/I]. If he was slowed instead of dazed at the start of his turn, and he used Shake It Off to make the save as his first action, then moved, would you say his speed is still only 2 because he was slowed at the [I]start[/I] of his turn? [i]Edit: D'oh! Ninja'ed by Hazard 53188![/i] :) I don't see why. Under your ruling, the Warlord's power operates differently on everyone else but him (in that if the Warlord uses it as soon as possible on another character, and that character makes his save, the character never suffers any actual effect from being dazed, but if he uses it as soon as possible on himself, and makes his save, he still suffers the full effect of being dazed). Shake It Off doesn't look to me like one of those powers that is intended to be less effective when used on the warlord himself, so it doesn't seem at all cheesy to me to rule that it [I]isn't[/I] less effective when used on the warlord himself. [/QUOTE]
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