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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 488619" data-attributes="member: 5890">Yeah, that'd be that piece of text of p.37, which states the fact 'in passing' as it were, which is neither mentioned in the original awaken, nor in the reprint of the same text in the mass awaken spell, which is found in the same book. In addition, it means that an awakened animal would cease to be subject to about half of the druid's buffing spells, which I believe is the reason that it was never actually changed in that way.Normally, it wouldn't be a problem - most people couldn't care less if their animal companion has an int of 5 or 500. Only when added to shapechange does it become a significant problem.I'd suggest changing the shapechange spell so that the caster gains the advantages and disadvantages of the type, but doesn't actually change type. If he can actually change type, there are many many more ways that the spell can be abused, the use of animal growth being the primary (can you imagine a shapechanged animal growthed frenzied berserker? He takes twice his normal BAB, and turns it into 2 points of damage per point! Or how about a tenser's transformed wizard shapechanged and animal growthed?).Of course the awaken spell doesn't actually cease once the target reverts to being 'humanoid' again - he still has an extra 2 hd, extra intelligence and extra charisma.Also note that druids actually get shapechange as a spell too, so it's not out of the question for a druid to do this to himself.No. The druid simply has to make an infusion of the awaken, et voila, it casts in a standard action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 488619, member: 5890"] Yeah, that'd be that piece of text of p.37, which states the fact 'in passing' as it were, which is neither mentioned in the original awaken, nor in the reprint of the same text in the mass awaken spell, which is found in the same book. In addition, it means that an awakened animal would cease to be subject to about half of the druid's buffing spells, which I believe is the reason that it was never actually changed in that way. Normally, it wouldn't be a problem - most people couldn't care less if their animal companion has an int of 5 or 500. Only when added to shapechange does it become a significant problem. I'd suggest changing the shapechange spell so that the caster gains the advantages and disadvantages of the type, but doesn't actually change type. If he can actually change type, there are many many more ways that the spell can be abused, the use of animal growth being the primary (can you imagine a shapechanged animal growthed frenzied berserker? He takes twice his normal BAB, and turns it into 2 points of damage per point! Or how about a tenser's transformed wizard shapechanged and animal growthed?). Of course the awaken spell doesn't actually cease once the target reverts to being 'humanoid' again - he still has an extra 2 hd, extra intelligence and extra charisma. Also note that druids actually get shapechange as a spell too, so it's not out of the question for a druid to do this to himself. No. The druid simply has to make an infusion of the awaken, et voila, it casts in a standard action. [/QUOTE]

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