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<blockquote data-quote="ForceUser" data-source="post: 2868986" data-attributes="member: 2785"><p>Honestly, I think you should see it in play for a while before judging it. YMMV, but experience is the best illustrator.</p><p></p><p>Stacks like rage. It's a little funky when meshing a razorclaw shifter (claws are primary) with the predator form (bite is primary), but the synergy is much better with the ferocious slayer form.</p><p></p><p>Razorclaw shifters gain +2 Str and natural claw attacks while shifting.</p><p></p><p>Yes, <em>riastarthae </em>is just a campaign-specific name for shifting. </p><p></p><p>The player is planning on taking five full levels of nature's warrior. After that, I don't know. I'm expecting him to seek out a Wisdom item at some point. He'll never be the spellcaster that the Wis-focused wildshape druid is, but that's not what he's going for.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't be surprised if the character abandoned the druid class after finishing the PrC progression. Barbarian would synergize well, don't you think? Gah, what a monster that would be! Hope the player doesn't read this thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>As for relative power, I dunno--if he sticks with druid, he'll get forest avenger form at 12th and elemental fury form at 16th. Both are potent. I think he'll do okay. Also, I think that there are too many variables--campaign style, stat generation method, and abundance of magical wealth, to name three--to qualitatively measure the relative power of shapeshift v. wildshape with any accuracy. That said, <em>everything </em>is relative. When I DM, I balance encounters against what the group is capable of handling, not against blind CRs. So IMC, it doesn't matter if the druid is wildshape or shapeshift, because he's going to face challenging opponents either way. Given that, I might as well go with the variant that's less of a headache for me to adjudicate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForceUser, post: 2868986, member: 2785"] Honestly, I think you should see it in play for a while before judging it. YMMV, but experience is the best illustrator. Stacks like rage. It's a little funky when meshing a razorclaw shifter (claws are primary) with the predator form (bite is primary), but the synergy is much better with the ferocious slayer form. Razorclaw shifters gain +2 Str and natural claw attacks while shifting. Yes, [I]riastarthae [/I]is just a campaign-specific name for shifting. The player is planning on taking five full levels of nature's warrior. After that, I don't know. I'm expecting him to seek out a Wisdom item at some point. He'll never be the spellcaster that the Wis-focused wildshape druid is, but that's not what he's going for. I wouldn't be surprised if the character abandoned the druid class after finishing the PrC progression. Barbarian would synergize well, don't you think? Gah, what a monster that would be! Hope the player doesn't read this thread. :p As for relative power, I dunno--if he sticks with druid, he'll get forest avenger form at 12th and elemental fury form at 16th. Both are potent. I think he'll do okay. Also, I think that there are too many variables--campaign style, stat generation method, and abundance of magical wealth, to name three--to qualitatively measure the relative power of shapeshift v. wildshape with any accuracy. That said, [I]everything [/I]is relative. When I DM, I balance encounters against what the group is capable of handling, not against blind CRs. So IMC, it doesn't matter if the druid is wildshape or shapeshift, because he's going to face challenging opponents either way. Given that, I might as well go with the variant that's less of a headache for me to adjudicate. [/QUOTE]
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