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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6878908" data-attributes="member: 92511">Shrug. My suggestion is level + Wisdom modifier. So at 2nd level a "Shaper" druid (for lack of a better title), is anywhere from 2 to 7 times per day...as with all things, some people are just plain naturally better at or catch on faster than others. Others improve markedly as they gain experience (and increase their ability score through ASI). Actually could, arguably "should", make it the Con. modifier, instead, since we are talking about bodily restructuring. I did forget about the 5e terminology, so make it "per long rest" (instead of "per day").This same druid, at 5th level, is now getting, potentially, 5-11 (per long rest/"day"). That doesn't strike me as "very high levels" to do a good amount of changing to a) have fun and b) thoroughly play out your archteype.We're not ...or, well, my intention/design, so I suppose I should say "I'M" not... trying to create a doppleganger or at-will changer. These druids don't have spells...they are also not limited to the Moon druid's shapes. This is their limited resource. It's use needs to still reflect "Wisdom" and be used judiciously. The query was for a druid that shapes instead of spells.  But, if you're a stickler for the existing Moon druid, then make it per short rest...Honestly, leaving it at 2 per rest, for the entire extent of their adventuring "career," for a subclass that is supposed to be only about shapeshifting (the Moon druid still gets spells, remember) seems UP'd (and boring) to me.The growth of the class should not only include "Oo, new feature" but that you do stuff you already know better/more often. You "expand" your abilities, not just get a new shiny.I don't really think it would be a problem. I really don't think letting a Druid who is designed to be ONLY about shapeshifting get those creatures is really going to be game breaking. So they can turn into a fish or frog or raven or eagle...so what? Makes them different from the existing Moon druid...which is what they're asking for. So they can reconn a bit more effectively *shrug* Flavorful? yes. Will be useful? Yes. OP'd? I don't really think so.By the proposal, they are limited to creatures of 1.5 CR...I mean, I don't know if any normal animals exceed that anyway (a warhorse is a 2, isn't it?) What is a druid going to do at 3rd that would be so disruptive to play or combat?Animal Messenger (the druid now has to change and deliver a message themselves), Alter Self (breathing underwater, gliding, claws, horns, "jumping" legs, brachiating arms, AND disguise self!), and Locate spells (now the druid has to turn into a hound to follow a trail or a bat to eco-locate/search in the dark or a fish to search underwater to find stuff) are all available at 3rd level to a spellcasting druid. The Shaper druid can do much of the same...arguably less since now they have to shapeshift to deliver that message themselves, turn into a fish or bat to go searching for things in places others can't, and the "partial-shifting" of Alter Self is off the table until they are 5th.</blockquote>

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