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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 6968141" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>First things first, <strong>excellent</strong> job [MENTION=6867586]Justin Fike[/MENTION] leading with your goals. Rare, and lets us knwo what you are trying to do and we can evaluate with that in mind (regardless if we had happened to spot your issue ourselves). It also tells us what you don't intend to cover.</p><p></p><p>Patron spells automatically known and a once per long-rest slot dedicated for them. I like this. Yes, it's a buff, especially in number of spells known, but I think it's a flavorful one and not overly powerful. If asked to tone it down a notch you could make one spell on the list is free, which also gives more room for different warlocks of the same pact to play differently. Actually, I think I like that - you get one patron spell per level as a bonus spell known, but if you have Pact of the Tome you get both.</p><p></p><p>Invocations for free once per day - I don't have enough Warlock experience to say. I've seen this proposed elsewhere as a fix which makes me think it's reasonable but I really have no practical experience to offer an opinion.</p><p></p><p>I strongly dislike CHR to attack and damage. It makes warlock very single ability score. In some ways getting Shillelagh to align casting and weapons to a single ability is already something sought out, and that is limited in weapon choices. This would work for any and just makes it too easy. Also makes Warlock 3 a nice cherry-pick for paladins and bards.</p><p></p><p>Extra attack at 6th. The SCAG cantrips somewhat fill this role already. It's the right level like valor bard. I'm okay. For thematic, can we limit it to just with your pact weapon?</p><p></p><p>On the flip side, the new Eldritch Strike feat is the bonus attack action from Polearm Master but better because you don't need to use the Attack action. And you can get a fighting style like Duelist. So at 6th between extra attack and spending invocations we're looking at three attacks (with the last one doing 1d4+Chr). That's sizable. It may be making them too martial, since they are also getting their spells advancing and such. </p><p></p><p>I think I would be more comfortable if they could be (after spending invocations) a reasonable melee combatant plus their casting if staying single classed and needed to multiclass to REALLY focus on weapon combat. And this makes bladelocks as good with weapons as martial classes without any reduction of their casting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 6968141, member: 20564"] First things first, [B]excellent[/B] job [MENTION=6867586]Justin Fike[/MENTION] leading with your goals. Rare, and lets us knwo what you are trying to do and we can evaluate with that in mind (regardless if we had happened to spot your issue ourselves). It also tells us what you don't intend to cover. Patron spells automatically known and a once per long-rest slot dedicated for them. I like this. Yes, it's a buff, especially in number of spells known, but I think it's a flavorful one and not overly powerful. If asked to tone it down a notch you could make one spell on the list is free, which also gives more room for different warlocks of the same pact to play differently. Actually, I think I like that - you get one patron spell per level as a bonus spell known, but if you have Pact of the Tome you get both. Invocations for free once per day - I don't have enough Warlock experience to say. I've seen this proposed elsewhere as a fix which makes me think it's reasonable but I really have no practical experience to offer an opinion. I strongly dislike CHR to attack and damage. It makes warlock very single ability score. In some ways getting Shillelagh to align casting and weapons to a single ability is already something sought out, and that is limited in weapon choices. This would work for any and just makes it too easy. Also makes Warlock 3 a nice cherry-pick for paladins and bards. Extra attack at 6th. The SCAG cantrips somewhat fill this role already. It's the right level like valor bard. I'm okay. For thematic, can we limit it to just with your pact weapon? On the flip side, the new Eldritch Strike feat is the bonus attack action from Polearm Master but better because you don't need to use the Attack action. And you can get a fighting style like Duelist. So at 6th between extra attack and spending invocations we're looking at three attacks (with the last one doing 1d4+Chr). That's sizable. It may be making them too martial, since they are also getting their spells advancing and such. I think I would be more comfortable if they could be (after spending invocations) a reasonable melee combatant plus their casting if staying single classed and needed to multiclass to REALLY focus on weapon combat. And this makes bladelocks as good with weapons as martial classes without any reduction of their casting. [/QUOTE]
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