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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6890842" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>There is an <em>Enlarge Person</em> spell that won't work on a Familiar, since it isn't a "person". There is the Wizard's option of "Share a spell with Familiar" that ends as soon as the Familiar is more than 5 feet from the caster. There is "Cast a spell with target of 'you' on a Familiar", which won't work for <em>Enlarge Person</em> because the target isn't limited to "you". And there's <em>Enlarge Animal</em> (Druidic) that wont work on a Familiar because it's a Magical Beast, not an "animal".</p><p></p><p>So permanently enlarging your Familiar may be problematic.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, <em>Polymorph</em> will work on a tiny Familiar just fine, so you can both be 11 headed Hydra to your heart's content.</p><p></p><p>Neither of you will gain a breath weapon (see <em>Polymorph</em> to verify the limits on abilities gained. You also won't be getting 11 attacks per round either. <em>Polymorph</em> says it "works like <em>Alter Self</em>", with exceptions, and ...</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, other than being impossible at almost every stage, and not giving you what you want, that's one heck of a plan, Ray, and I'm proud to be a part of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6890842, member: 6669384"] There is an [I]Enlarge Person[/I] spell that won't work on a Familiar, since it isn't a "person". There is the Wizard's option of "Share a spell with Familiar" that ends as soon as the Familiar is more than 5 feet from the caster. There is "Cast a spell with target of 'you' on a Familiar", which won't work for [I]Enlarge Person[/I] because the target isn't limited to "you". And there's [I]Enlarge Animal[/I] (Druidic) that wont work on a Familiar because it's a Magical Beast, not an "animal". So permanently enlarging your Familiar may be problematic. On the other hand, [I]Polymorph[/I] will work on a tiny Familiar just fine, so you can both be 11 headed Hydra to your heart's content. Neither of you will gain a breath weapon (see [I]Polymorph[/I] to verify the limits on abilities gained. You also won't be getting 11 attacks per round either. [I]Polymorph[/I] says it "works like [I]Alter Self[/I]", with exceptions, and ... So, other than being impossible at almost every stage, and not giving you what you want, that's one heck of a plan, Ray, and I'm proud to be a part of it. [/QUOTE]
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