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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8795130" data-attributes="member: 93670">Back in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/sharp-shooter-great-weapon-mastery.691972/post-8794399" target="_blank">post 200</a> I literally said "players need to be proficient in the same skill" & in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/sharp-shooter-great-weapon-mastery.691972/post-8794734" target="_blank">207</a> I quoted the mechanic itself, why are you echoing what's already been said as if pointing out something unnoticed?  It's pure good that players in that situation without proficiency in the same skill need to convince the gm how some other proficiency or some other thing should be allowed to work for this help action rather than the players being salty because the gm refused to allow it or because the GM wanted more than "and I help".The help action being a codified action is part of a trend where a number of things now have codified actions the GM can choose to handwave or make an exception to rather than a vague unfilled outline the gm needs to browbeat the players with using questions like "do you want to use your action for that."  Game design for a functional skill system is heavy in math, "rulings not rules" & 5e's collection of never ending unintended edge cases thrown to the gm to fix causes a lot of <a href="https://external-preview.redd.it/HBrUMd7zG-vRDudSZ1Qel3IbDrap4sXx9z1AvAGjgHw.jpg?auto=webp&s=32e822ab2880c6c2b3c0049b27ef017dde7781ad" target="_blank">these problems</a> the GM is left to fix or build around with consequences.Did you not take the time to read the class?  Hunters mark is cast with a first level slot with no concentration for one hour at level 1 for the new ranger giving them +1d6 each time the ranger damages the marked target.  With a third & 5th level slot that jumps to 8 hours & 24 hours.  Ranger gets those at levels higher than first at higher levels, no 4th level feat needed.   Higher level ranger gets all kinds of things yes, the bard getting hex & ranger getting hunters mark variation was an example of why the outrage over not being able to dual wield rapiers was not reasonable.</blockquote>

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